Anyone got any evidence for a god?

[breadnbutter]

Mike, you seem to be missing the point somewhat....

your god is just science....

The god I take issue with is the one that's an elephant.... or the one that has a horse with wings... or the one that created everything we know in just 6 EARTH DAYS !!!!!! why EARTH DAYS? when we're in a universe where Earth is nothing?????

The answer is because EARTH is all that the PEOPLE who wrote the babble (sorry, bible) knew about !!!

Why are you angry. Why insult his name,thinking he might strike you down. if you have that faith why not ask him to forgive you,and make peace whith him, Why not find out about him, rather than ignorantly accuse him of things he has not done. why would God do harm to the world if he loved the world enough to send jesus to save the world from its sin. so man could be reconciled back to God through jesus, and have fellowship whith God again.

 

[breadnbutter]

No one can truly answer who created us But I think those who fear death are far more likely to believe in a god or afterlife as it's inconciveable to them to think that one day they won't exsist anymore .

i can, and gods word can, you cannot disprove Gods word.

i did not become a christian becuase i was afraid to die . i accepted death,
as part of life,long before i found Jesus,so you cannot play that card trick.

 

[JBR]

No one can truly answer who created us But I think those who fear death are far more likely to believe in a god or afterlife as it's inconciveable to them to think that one day they won't exsist anymore .

I think that's the strongest incentive to believe in an afterlife. When death approaches, who wouldn't want to yearn for an afterlife?

 

[captaincaveman1]

So if I decided to put my my finger in a flame and said before I did it that I believe in "The hand god" that therefore no harm would come to my finger?

 

[breadnbutter]

So if I decided to put my my finger in a flame and said before I did it that I believe in "The hand god" that therefore no harm would come to my finger?

no you would be a pratt, and burn your finger off.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

Only that God was there or has been there forever, since Energy cannot be destroyed nor created, so there is no question where it came from, it was always there and shall always remain so, it created the universe and all things inside..

Therefore if energy can't be created or destroyed, it follows then, that there is no god, as he can't possibly have created something that's always been there.

Oh, I slipped up by not mentioning again that I have mentioned before many times, that God is Energy itself, or Energy is God itself or himself for respect,

So God cannot be destroyed and or created, he is the creator, he is the energy himself, as I explained before you cannot get fire without heat , if there is a fire there will be heat, same way if God was not there, there would neither be any energy and hence there would have been no creation, you wouldn't be surfing on the net today, you simply would not exist along with everything else including me. By this definition, if there was no energy, there would be No God either.

When Einstein came up with his famous E=mc2, he proved this mathematically and logically, he did not prove this in an experiment, later on much later on when the first atomic bomb was detonated, it proved that atoms are made of vast amounts of energy, and if we try to obliterate them out of existence, then vast amounts of energy is released that went in creating it in the first place.

So by this logic, we can say that since at present we use uranium to generate nuclear power, but in theory an atom of any element is capable of yielding vast amounts of energy, of course this is beyond my scope of my brains, as I am not a physicist.


But I can say, that God is the spiritual aspect of this supreme Energy and all matter is driven out of this supreme energy hence each and every atom is composed of God energy.

I really think that religions were made by more intelligent men to brainwash less intelligent men to put fear in them and to control earthly things, religion therefore has no real connection with God, if God had wanted whole earth to follow one religion then he would have wiped out all other religions by now.

 

[Micilin]

"if God had wanted whole earth to follow one religion then he would have wiped out all other religions by now."

Isn't that that why religions have tried to wipe each other out through the ages - 'It's what God wants'

 

[Micilin]

But still we come back to the lack of evidence for a god.

All of these arguments are based on the first principle of 'I believe there is a god' and then using this to on which to build the argument.

Round and round it goes as ever. Remove the fist principle and there is argument.

Just be honest and say 'There is no evidence, but I believe because I believe' Irrational but more honest than any of the arguments I have seen so far.

Regardless, no one has provided a shred of evidence that that a god has done anything .


' You cannot disprove God's word' well you certainly can if you are think that the Bible is God's word, because of its many internal contradictions.

 

[joe-90]

No. The basic premise is that everything must have come from somewhere. No need to believe as that much is obvious. Either it came from something. (God) or it came from nothing, and something must have acted upon the nothing to make it a something. (God). That much is beyond dispute. No need to bring Father Christmas figures into the argument. Let's keep it scientific.

 

[breadnbutter]

But still we come back to the lack of evidence for a god.

All of these arguments are based on the first principle of 'I believe there is a god' and then using this to on which to build the argument.

Round and round it goes as ever. Remove the fist principle and there is argument.

Just be honest and say 'There is no evidence, but I believe because I believe' Irrational but more honest than any of the arguments I have seen so far.

Regardless, no one has provided a shred of evidence that that a god has done anything .


' You cannot disprove God's word' well you certainly can if you are think that the Bible is God's word, because of its many internal contradictions.

i dont believe becuase i believe,that would be dumb, i believe becuase i know its true.

the contradictions are becuase you dont understand it.

there is plenty info to compare on internet. search it out. it would be to much on here to show all the great things the bible has.

so you want to see a phisical presence of God. or do you want to see a human,whith a data plate on his head saying made by God.

you will see God, we all will,face to face thats the truth

 

[EFLImpudence]

i dont believe becuase i believe,that would be dumb, i believe becuase i know its true.

No, you believe it is true, therefore...
It has been agreed, I think, that you cannot know.

the contradictions are becuase you dont understand it.

No, it is because I don't believe it.

That there is a god, that is.
If some want to say that the universe and its energy is god then obviously the universe and its energy is there but that is not what is meant.

there is plenty info to compare on internet. search it out. it would be to much on here to show all the great things the bible has.
so you want to see a phisical presence of God. or do you want to see a human,whith a data plate on his head saying made by God.

Show us one piece.

you will see God, we all will,face to face thats the truth

But without a data plate.

I don't know whether to laugh or despair.

 

[Big Tone]

Personally, I despair

But I take solace in that it doesn’t matter what crap people espouse today, the truth will out and since that is all I’m interested it doesn’t matter one iota to me what people say or think about there being some benevolent god.

Remember too that we have to think in the long term. We may have more blood baths, (in the name of someone’s god/faith), of that I have no dubt. But think of 100 years from now, or in a thousand years time and how many more myths science will dispel.

Even if the offspring of religious fanatics are brainwashed today, their children and the next generation may not be - as the truth emerges and common sense prevails. The Web is full of accounts of the rise in Atheism; too many to post. So read a couple just from Wiki and weep...

“In East Asia, atheists and the irreligious are the majority”.

“The number of atheists is on the rise across the world, with religiosity generally declining”.

 

[joe-90]

It doesn't change the fact that the universe came from somewhere. Science starts AFTER the big bang - not before it, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with atheism.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

God & his creation is far far beyond our even the best scientist, not even a million years from now we will be any closer to homing on him, simply because he is far too complex and evasive, we would never be able to keep up with him, but yes without any direct evidence we thus form our doubts about him, but we can see his fingerprints left everywhere, his aftermath, so he is the man (not literally a man) behind it all and he is far too good and clever even for the likes of Prof. S. Hawkins, who has only managed to uncover a fraction of the secrets of the universe, and is still somewhat confused

and then How do we not know that God Energy isn't also a Personality, like all living things on earth also have a personality and as well as a body made of flesh and blood, God is also a personality but he is not made of a body of flesh and blood, he is made of Supreme Energy that has so many attributes that we will probably never be able to crack all his attributes.

we have absolute no knowledge of such a supreme being, but it always nice to debate about. This in tself is worshipping a God!

 

[joe-90]

Science can't even tell us how paracetamol works, even though we've been using it since 1880. That's how advanced science is.