Boat illegals up under Labour.

transam · Wednesday at 8:30 PM

denso13 said:
Not all but it is worth a go. The figures are turning round, slowly, yes, but it was never going to be easy.

For now deportations up and migration down, but that won't last forever.

Seasonal ?

Wait till the task forces mission kicks in

Who is in charge of this task force ? What is there job title ?

Task force leader ???

Justin Passing · 2024-12-19T04:28:35+0000

carmanmemoranda said:
So you think it is appropriate to ram an overloaded inflatable in the English channel in winter, and nobody would be accountable?

No "ramming" is required. If your boat's bigger than theirs you only have to get in the way.
As you're at the half way line, the rib is in French waters so call the French lifeboats if the vessel is unseaworthy.

The people in the boats wouldn't carry the might of the French courts in a dinghy behind them.. They would have a more immediate problem of using up their money and getting nowhere, So they'd stop.
I doubt the French Legal Aid system is flush enough to jump to their aid.

Yes all countries should help refugees, but that doesn't mean taking all, with no say who or how many.

motorbiking · 2024-12-19T08:51:14+0000

denso13 said:
Immigration going down, deportations up, all is good in the hood...

got any data to back that up?

carmanmemoranda · 2024-12-19T09:28:52+0000

Justin Passing said:
Yes all countries should help refugees, but that doesn't mean taking all, with no say who or how many.

So an effective system would be a good starting point.

denso13 · 2024-12-19T10:05:49+0000

Justin Passing said:
Yes all countries should help refugees,

While at the same time pushing back some genuine cases. I don't think that's a very good solution.

motorbiking · 2024-12-19T12:21:34+0000

I don't think you are accounting for the Criminal mind. You put your effort in to legal processes and the illegal ones just sit next door to pick up those rejected.

Justin Passing · 2024-12-19T17:36:59+0000

denso13 said:
While at the same time pushing back some genuine cases. I don't think that's a very good solution.

No it's not very good. Better than no controls at all, though. Nobody has an ideal solution I don't think. Elements from the Auzzie methods... Points system, quotas. no random boatfulls

carmanmemoranda said:
So an effective system would be a good starting point.

I have said as much, several times.
I realise that saying someting like "form an orderly queue at the British Embassy in Paris", consideration of your case may take 6 months"
doesn't really satisfy the problem for the refugee/migrant.

Europe if not world-wide schemes should be sorted out. Easily said...
On the occasions when I've been face to face with wretched people with roadkill truck tyre cut-offs for shoes and clutching a meagre ration handed out by some agency or divvied up by the one earning worker in the extended family, I don't have an answer. You find them at many of the world's international borders. Life is not fair.

Notch7 · 2024-12-19T17:42:45+0000

Justin Passing said:
but that doesn't mean taking all, with no say who or how many

But we arent

EU had 1.2m asylum seekers in 2023 U.K. had about 40,000

Notch7 · 2024-12-19T17:45:52+0000

The problem won’t stop until European nations work together but nobody will work together because grifters like Farage use immigration to stir up hate and division as a political tool.

transam · 2024-12-19T18:30:02+0000

Cooperation in Europe

Mind you having said that Italy and the UK have set up a joint ?? “Task Force”

Perhaps the UK could set up a “Task Force”

with other European countries

Notch7 · 2024-12-19T18:50:59+0000

transam said:
Cooperation in Europe

Mind you having said that Italy and the UK have set up a joint ?? “Task Force”

Perhaps the UK could set up a “Task Force” with other European countries

Yeah there will never be any cooperation on it.

What will happen is every country will try and stop migrants getting in and they will keep trying to find different ways to get in through whatever country they can by whatever route.

It won’t end until the supply side stops…..you have to stop them getting across the Ned from North Africa etc into Europe

Brigadier · 2024-12-19T20:42:11+0000

Agriculture - "We have a recruitment crisis"
Care sector - "We have a recruitment crisis"
NHS - "We have a recruitment crisis"
Education sector - "We have a recruitment crisis"
Construction sector - "We have a recruitment crisis"
Manufacturing sector - "We have a recruitment crisis"

RWR - "WE'RE FULL!"

transam · 2024-12-19T21:27:41+0000

Brigadier said:
Agriculture - "We have a recruitment crisis"
Care sector - "We have a recruitment crisis"
NHS - "We have a recruitment crisis"
Education sector - "We have a recruitment crisis"
Construction sector - "We have a recruitment crisis"
Manufacturing sector - "We have a recruitment crisis"

RWR - "WE'RE FULL!"

No worries all of the above are coming across in rubber boats from France

Sorted

Plus the “ Task Force” recently set up will help to sort it

denso13 · 2024-12-19T21:30:30+0000

transam said:
No worries all of the above are coming across in rubber boats from France

Migration going down and deportations up.

transam said:
Sorted

Slowly but surely...

transam · 2024-12-19T21:34:02+0000

denso13 said:
Migration going down and deportations up.

Slowly but surely...

But the UK is short of construction workers

NHS workers etc

1.5 million houses is the target

There is probably a “ task force” being set up

By my reckoning in 5 years that some thing like building 200 or 300 houses a day

Boat illegals up under Labour.

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