BREXIT Put your hands up if you didn't know what you were voting for.

[JohnD]

I can understand why you don't want to admit that your silly fantasies are unacceptable to the UK Parliament, and to the EU negotiators, and to the people of NI, and to the people of RoI.

You're wasting your time throwing in unworkable suggestions which have already been rejected.

Are you Buffoon Johnson with a false name?

 

[Bodd]

I can understand why you don't want to admit that your silly fantasies are unacceptable to the UK Parliament, and to the EU negotiators, and to the people of NI, and to the people of RoI.

You're wasting your time throwing in unworkable suggestions which have already been rejected.

Are you Buffoon Johnson with a false name?

Elaborate on goods and services please

 

[JohnD]

Buffoon Johnson is a well-known author of humorous fiction, and media "personality." He seeks publicity at all costs and is known to be untruthful. He is currently employed as an MP and Foreign Secretary. He is noted throughout the world for his incompetence in this role.

 

[Bodd]

Buffoon Johnson is a well-known author of humorous fiction, and media "personality." He seeks publicity at all costs and is known to be untruthful. He is currently employed as an MP and Foreign Secretary. He is noted throughout the world for his incompetence in this role.

What is your concern with goods and services over the Irish Border?

 

[JohnD]

It is essential for a "Brexit Deal" that a new treaty is agreed between the UK and the EU. Such a treaty will include the terms of trade and movement of people, money, goods and services, and jurisdiction over disputes, the rules to be followed, and how those rules will be set. As you know.

The terms of any such treaty must be agreed by the UK Parliament and by the members of the EU, each of which has a veto. Possibly also the consent of the Scottish Parliament and the Assemblies of Wales and NI, although they do have the option to secede if not satisfied.

Therefore any lunatic scheme which does not have the agreement of the UK Parliament, and of the EU members especially the RoI, is a non-starter.

All your suggestions have been non-starters.

Sadly, our government has so far been incapable of agreeing the terms, even with itself, or with the UK Parliament, or with the citizens of the UK, so is incapable of making an agreement with the EU.

This is most unsatisfactory.

But perhaps not surprising.

 

[transam]

I wonder why the bitter, angry, hate filled few like to spend their time moaning and grumbling on here.

dunno why do you ?

 

[Bodd]

John. The way I see it is if let say a leading Brexit think tank come out with a perfect solution.. The EU would still turn their noses up.

Their is a solution and comprises but they need to be grown up and stop hurting normal people all over Europe

 

[JohnD]

The UK decided to resign. It's up to the UK government to say what it wants to do. It hasn't been able to do that yet. If the lunatics throw ideas around like Buffoon does, which the UK Parliament and the EU don't accept, they are non starters.

There are four known options available. The Brexiteers reject all of them.

Do you think the UK government should be able to decide what to ask for, more than two years after the referendum?

BTW extremist pressure groups don't run the country.

thank gods.

 

[Bodd]

The UK decided to resign. It's up to the UK government to say what it wants to do. It hasn't been able to do that yet. If the lunatics throw ideas around like Buffoon does, which the UK Parliament and the EU don't accept, they are non starters.

Do you think the UK government should be able to decide what to ask for, more than two years after the referendum?

BTW extremist pressure groups don't run the country.

thank gods.

Your saying to me that no one as Come out with a what a about this or maybe this would work If we so this?

 

[JohnD]

No, I'm not saying that nobody has thrown around ideas which are lunatic, or unworkable, or unacceptable to the UK Parliament, or unacceptable to the EU, or unacceptable to NI, or all of the above.

We need a suggestion that is workable, sensible and acceptable.

We haven't made one yet.

The Brexiteers reject the four known possible options.

 

[transam]

EU wrote the rules & set the 2 year timetable in a treaty so as to allow countries to leave

 

[JohnD]

and do you think that is why the UK government can't decide what it wants?

What has it achieved in two years of bumbling and squabbling?

Has it agreed with itself what it wants to ask for with the Irish border? Do RoI and EU agree?

 

[JohnD]

 

[transam]

Irish border issue is as simplistic as people want to make it

Brexit has frightened the EU no 2 ways about it , so logic will dictate that there goal is to make leaving as difficult as possible in order to deter others

David Trimble spoke about the Irish border issue in A Radio 4 interview .

Due to current events in the EU Macrons view of a federal Europe are all but down the collective toilet

Poland is seeking ever closer ties with the USA / Trump

Merkel has done a massive amount of damage to the EU

 

[JohnD]

Irish border issue is as simplistic as people want to make it

The UK government has got several incompatible demands, which are impossible. It has not yet been able to agree on something which is workable and acceptable.

Brexit has frightened the EU no 2 ways about it , so logic will dictate that there goal is to make leaving as difficult as possible in order to deter others

No, the EU wants a practical and workable arrangement. The UK government rejects the four available options, and is unable to decide what else it can agree on.

The current bumbling and squabbling in the UK government has left them unable to agree even among themselves. They are consequently unable to put forward anything they could try to agree with the EU.

Brexit Omnishambles.