British missiles in Ukraine

[denso13]

As for the tanks one of the so called best tanks in the world the abrams the far superior russian weapons have decimated them and the few they have left they are holding back now .

Down basically to relatively cheap drones. I think everyone will be revaluating their tactics given what drones have achieved.

 

[motorbiking]

From discussion with family members in the forces.. the big issue with the Russian tanks is the lack of protection for the ammo. Hence a well placed grenade through an open hatch has a good chance of igniting the ammo.

I don't buy Corbyn's claim that allowing British missiles to be used is an act of war. I would have thought chemical and radioactive weapons being used on British soil would have also been such an act.

 

[Odds]

Down basically to relatively cheap drones. I think everyone will be revaluating their tactics given what drones have achieved.

If you watched the 'security brief' on the BeeB last night, you'd know the next gen. of military hardware will be equipped with a thought processor which will translate facial gestures into commands for weapon systems: an eye blink could send an anti tank missile on the target; a raised eyebrow could take out aircraft - Roger Moore would've loved it.

 

[IT Minion]

From discussion with family members in the forces.. the big issue with the Russian tanks is the lack of protection for the ammo. Hence a well placed grenade through an open hatch has a good chance of igniting the ammo.

I don't buy Corbyn's claim that allowing British missiles to be used is an act of war. I would have thought chemical and radioactive weapons being used on British soil would have also been such an act.

The USSR kit is also smaller and lighter than NATO. To keep similar or greater firepower to bigger NATO tanks that comes at a cost to crew count, rear/side protection.

Cheap consumer drones generally can't kill a tank, they can finish an abandoned one off but as a rule they don't have the power to penetrate armour. Most of the drone kill footage is after a tank threw a track , ran out of fuel or was immobilised by artillery or other weapons. Historically the most common reason to lose a tank is it broke down or ran out of fuel. A tank that can't move will get either a grenade through a hatch or a 155 shell on the roof.

And Corbyn is talking out his arse.

 

[blup]

The way I see it is that he announced to the world he was going to do WTF he fancied and "you will not stop me".

We have pretty much allowed him to carry on as he pleases. We have to intervene now and help as much as possible, otherwise he will get the idea that he can do what he likes. He has to be taken down a peg or two.

As for pushing the button, he wouldn't dare. He knows that would be the end of everything and he loves himself too much to do that.

He was a bully as a child and nothing has changed. We need to stand up to him.

At the outset some hawks were saying the west had to fight him directly otherwise he will get away with aggression next time he invades another country. He is too rational a person to push the nuclear button over ukrane, but there are plenty of civilian nuclear targets he could go for first, or nuclear tipped weapons

 

[ReganAndCarter]

[Sitting back, popcorn in hand - letting the armchair generals get on with it]

 

[charliegolf]

What’s stopping Russia firing a missile into say Harlow

Article 5 of the NATO treaty.