Climate change.

[joe-90]

It was predicted last September that the winter would be a very long one and they got it right.

No; they guessed right for once. It's always 50/50 whether we get a mild or cold winter.

Winters have been getting a lot colder lately. The Jet Stream acts like a curtain and it is too far south these days.

 

[enyam]

What was the position of the jet stream during the winter of 62.

 

[joe-90]

No idea.

 

[enyam]

Thats a first.

 

[joe-90]

Why do you think I should know?

 

[tony1851]

It was predicted last September that the winter would be a very long one and they got it right.

No; they guessed right for once. It's always 50/50 whether we get a mild or cold winter.

Winters have been getting a lot colder lately. The Jet Stream acts like a curtain and it is too far south these days.

No, they haven't. Scientists love searching out patterns, but there are none for weather.
1963 was a very cold winter, 1947 even more so. And back in the 18th and early 19t centuries, winters were often extremely cold.

 

[joe-90]

Yes they have and there are signs that the coming winter will be like 62/63.

 

[tony1851]

It isn't that winters have been getting colder of late; it's that until recently, we had a series of relatively mild winters. Winters now are coming back on course for how they have always been in this country.

Until fairly recently, some younger children had never seen snow, and many younger car drivers had no experience of driving in snow and ice.

Now the weather is getting back to normal; there's nothing unusual about it, except in scientist's heads, and gullable people who are taken in.

 

[snico]

It isn't that winters have been getting colder of late; it's that until recently, we had a series of relatively mild winters. Winters now are coming back on course for how they have always been in this country.

Until fairly recently, some younger children had never seen snow, and many younger car drivers had no experience of driving in snow and ice.

Now the weather is getting back to normal; there's nothing unusual about it, except in scientist's heads, and gullable people who are taken in.

Rubbish!!

 

[tony1851]

Why is it rubbish?

 

[Norcon]

It was predicted last September that the winter would be a very long one and they got it right.

No; they guessed right for once. It's always 50/50 whether we get a mild or cold winter.

You don't seem to understand.
This years winter lasted until June. The north wind blowing right up until then. Many farmers were contemplating suicide.
There was no spring. It changed direct from winter to summer.

One farmer near me followed a load of hay into another farmers yard and demanded the hay be sent to his farm or he would shoot himself because his livestock were starving.
He pulled the gun out of the boot to show them he was serious.
You haven't got a clue.

 

[Dextraneous]

You don't seem to understand.
This years winter lasted until June. The north wind blowing right up until then. Many farmers were contemplating suicide.
There was no spring. It changed direct from winter to summer.

One farmer near me followed a load of hay into another farmers yard and demanded the hay be sent to his farm or he would shoot himself.
He pulled the gun out of the boot to show them he was serious.

What was the outcome?
Poor bloke. Without condoning his actions, one can attempt to imagine what it must be like to be on the brink

 

[jockscott]

All weather comes from the ocean - surely you know that much?

Ahh I see, if there was no sun, then we'd still have "weather " Yur no half daft Joe,,, Yur completely daft.

I now expect a complete and utter denial that ye posted this piece of unscientific rubbish,. (or a statement that we don't understand you)

 

[tony1851]

This years winter lasted until June.

And in 1947 there was still snow in some north-facing hollows in the hills.
There is also film from that winter of desperate farmers trying to lift root crops from the frozen ground using pneumatic drills. People then didn't seem to be complaining about climate change.

Your anecdote about the farmer is of course very sad, and no-one would deny farmers sympathy for failed crops. However, the human aspect of that story - and no doubt many others like it - should not detract from an objective view of what is happening to the climate. Science depends on data which ultimately has to be interpreted by human beings, and therein lies the problem. A much, much longer-term view of the climate would put small-scale changes in true perspective.

 

[sooey]

Winter is coming.............and the night is dark, and full of terror.......watch out for the white walkers.