Concentration camps

[alumni]

You can't be accused of being a denier when you've never suggested nothing happened. Just what happened and to how many people is what is being debated. If you don't like the thread then you know where the door is.

Carry on if you wish... tbh I would expect both sides to have just agreed to differ on this one.

I think I have a valid point to offer and that is that noone is obviously ever going to 'WIN' this argument so unless it is going to continue for the next fifty years it may as well be locked.

yaleguy, we have to endure your endless re-appearances, please allow the rest of us our right to post. You want to take the option of sitting on the fence, be our guest, but do not expect everyone else to join you.

 

[wobs]

Well you tell me where the bodies of the 12 million are then. If you can't - then you must be a denier too.

Strawman argument, as you're the only one going on about 12million bodies. But here's a clue as I'm feeling generous: Europe is a big place, and they aren't all in the same bit.

 

[joe-90]

Well you tell me where the bodies of the 12 million are then. If you can't - then you must be a denier too.

Strawman argument, as you're the only one going on about 12million bodies. But here's a clue as I'm feeling generous: Europe is a big place, and they aren't all in the same bit.

Don't be silly. We are talking about the number of people that would fill 24 cities the size of Liverpool. You can't just 'lose' that number of people without someone either:

A) Knowing about it.

B) Keep stumbling across them.

Can you see why I'm having trouble with this?

BTW if you dispute the figure then you are also a denier. Welcome aboard.

 

[ibby]

Just want to add my 2p,

I am sure the Holocaust happened,
But what I dont agree with is the numbers they claim.
What I also know is, Jews were not the only race/religion to suffer.

question is ....

why are we forgetting the others, and highlighting just one?

 

[joe-90]

One word:


ISRAEL

 

[alumni]

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question is ....

why are we forgetting the others, and highlighting just one?

"we" aren't.

But Joe, the anti semitic just tries to cloud the issue with his lies.

 

[joe-90]

Yes you are - and stop using that made-up word - it's meaningless.

You talk about the SIX MILLION - but we know that in the camps Jewish people made up less than half.

So is it THREE MILLION, SIX MILLION or TWELVE MILLION?

Well?

 

[ibby]

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question is ....

why are we forgetting the others, and highlighting just one?

"we" aren't.

But Joe, the anti semitic just tries to cloud the issue with his lies.

Joe has some very valid points and so do other members....

If you ask somone off the street who died in the Holocaust, they will mention the one race and one religion.

Do people think their is an issue of educating the people to stop listening to the propaganda projected on the TV and the radio?

 

[joe-90]

It doesn't suit their argument mate. That's the bottom line.

 

[peaps2]

Joe has some very valid points and so do other members....

Can you please point out joes valid points?

If you ask somone off the street who died in the Holocaust, they will mention the one race and one religion.

Although every bit of literature you read mentions all that died....

Do people think their is an issue of educating the people to stop listening to the propaganda projected on the TV and the radio?

Care to point out one of these propaganda projects?

 

[peaps2]

What I also know is, Jews were not the only race/religion to suffer.

question is ....

why are we forgetting the others, and highlighting just one?

Jewish people were singled out because of their religion and were persecuted for nothing more than that.

We don't forget others that died at the hands of Nazi Germany.

 

[wobs]

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Joe has some very valid points and so do other members....

Joe has made false statements not just about the holocaust, but of members of this forum in order to further his arguments.

Strawman arguments, ad hom, thin end of the wedge fallacies, to name a few... the list is pretty long for the flawed arguments he has made, so I'm struggling to find a single point he has made that is in anyway "good".

And his complete lack of credible evidence of course points further to him to being wrong.

 

[UriBentMySpoon]

Why is it me who only thinks joe is on the right track?

The silent majority think the same but dare not raise their hand and say so.

The silent majority understand the Holocaust did not happen? How do we know?

I am going to claim the silent majority think Elvis is still alive. Its a pointless argument.

Anyone and everyone can use the silent majority to support their argument.

As for Joe being on the right track? He is only questioning the number of Jews killed. He keeps floating around the 12 million number.

Show me the 50 million homosexuals killed by the Holocaust. You can't, so therefore homosexuals were not targeted by the Holocaust, it did not happen as far as they were concerned. Make up a silly number that cannot be proved and thats your argument against the Holocaust?

If he was merely finding who died and how during WWII why isn't he questioning the millions of troops the Soviets lost? Not all their bodies were found. We should still be picking their bits out of the ground even today.

 

[UriBentMySpoon]

I'm not sure what it is that you want an answer to. Give me a straight question and you'll get a straight answer.

I have been giving him straight questions. He hasn't answered. His bias in trying to ascertain the amount of Jews killed, ignoring everyone else shows his Anti Semitic agenda.

 

[peaps2]

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neither does yours.....