CORRUPTION IN UKRAINE

[Ivor Windybottom]

The only believable conspiracy theory about Ukraine is that the Nato is rationing help so that they wear down Russia for as long as possible, so they use up as many bombs as possible.

This would be in Nato's interests but, if true, then our decisions would be causing greater loss of life and suffering than could be achieved.

But ultimately nobody really cares about the people of Ukraine, the motivation from both sides is mostly about the gas and oil that's underneath the place.

 

[gant]

"a whole generation of young men killed because of this corruption and phoney proxy war".

This is fake news at its best. Let's pretend that Russia is the good guy, and Ukraine the baddies, and blame them for all the death and destruction.

When Russia invades a country closer to home, you'll change your opinion pretty quickly

Whose pretending Russia is the good guy? What I got from it apart from the money, was sending men to the front line who weren't physically capable and students being rounded up.
Think it's been documented Russia aren't fussy who they send to the Frontline.
The other thing to do before fake news is confirmed, is research whether the newspapers they've named have reported what they've suggested.

 

[denso13]

Any ACTUAL evidence or facts?

You must be new here...

 

[JP_]

Whose pretending Russia is the good guy?

It's just the general gist I got from that video. Maybe I misinterpreted it, but it seemed very much like it was making Ukraine out to be the bad guys. All a bit odd if you ask me - Russia is blowing the **** out of the country!

 

[transam]

Corruption in the Ukraine is nowt new

One of the most corrupt countries in Europe been like that for years

Ask hunter biden

 

[denso13]

This is fake news at its best

It's downright lying. Even managed to give Hunter Biden a mention. Idiots.

 

[transam]

Any where the west poor in military aid is probably rife with corruption

Ahfghanistan and there phantom army

Scammed billions out of the west all ended up in over seas bank accounts

Most of thefe army only donned a military uniform ounce a month when they turned up on pay day

 

[transam]

It's downright lying. Even managed to give Hunter Biden a mention. Idiots.

Why should he not be mentioned
He had his snout in the trough ( allegedly )

 

[denso13]

Why should he not be mentioned

Because it had nothing whatsoever to do with the blog. Does show their wider political stance though.

 

[gant]

It's downright lying. Even managed to give Hunter Biden a mention. Idiots.

Have you researched whether they were lying about the newspaper reports?

 

[johnny2007]

Let's not forget who the Ukrainians are.
They almost blew the world 40 years ago and tried to keep it a secret instead of asking for help pronto.
Now they're very quick at begging for money all over the world.
And more recently, did we forget what happened in Crimea?
I think it was 2014.
Besides, I see lots of fit young men from Ukraine walking the streets of London and many expensive vehicles with Ukrainian plates, all at our expenses.
Why are they not fighting the war in their country?
Is it because a very large number of them would prefer to return under Russia and say goodbye to misery and poverty?

 

[denso13]

Have you researched whether they were lying about the newspaper reports?

They give no links. Do you really expect me to trawl through the New York Journal and find what I think they are referring to. And if I do find it, then what. They lied throughout the blog.

 

[gant]

They give no links. Do you really expect me to trawl through the New York Journal and find what I think they are referring to. And if I do find it, then what. They lied throughout the blog.

You said it was downright lying, I'd expect more temperate language if you couldn't substantiate that position.

 

[cwhaley]

There is a history of corruption in Ukraine (as there is in any country I suppose), but the war with Russia seems to have brushed lots of it under the carpet and the current psyche/mood forbids any discussion on Ukraine deemed negative.

There were tens of billions of USD provided as loans to Ukraine which have simply disappeared and are unaccounted for (this was under the leadership of Yanukovich), but nobody has really talked about it. That's probably one of the most well-known examples, but there's more and there are a few good books on it.

 

[denso13]

You said it was downright lying,

I was responding to a direct quote from the blog, this one.

"a whole generation of young men killed because of this corruption and phoney proxy war".

Do you really think that every Ukrainian male between 18 and 45 has been killed in the war? Really?