CORRUPTION IN UKRAINE

[carmanmemoranda]

Whose pretending Russia is the good guy? What I got from it apart from the money, was sending men to the front line who weren't physically capable and students being rounded up.
Think it's been documented Russia aren't fussy who they send to the Frontline.
The other thing to do before fake news is confirmed, is research whether the newspapers they've named have reported what they've suggested.

There were videos, but was it of what you were told?

Any actual corroborating evidence ?

 

[JP_]

They almost blew the world 40 years ago and tried to keep it a secret instead of asking for help pronto.

You can't blame them for an accident.

And more recently, did we forget what happened in Crimea?
I think it was 2014.

Russia invaded Crimea, and we all ignored it. How is that Ukraine's fault?

 

[gant]

I was responding to a direct quote from the blog, this one.

"a whole generation of young men killed because of this corruption and phoney proxy war".

Do you really think that every Ukrainian male between 18 and 45 has been killed in the war? Really?

Edit post 21 then to reflect that because as it stands it sounds like your saying it's across the board.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Whose pretending Russia is the good guy? What I got from it apart from the money, was sending men to the front line who weren't physically capable and students being rounded up.
Think it's been documented Russia aren't fussy who they send to the Frontline.
The other thing to do before fake news is confirmed, is research whether the newspapers they've named have reported what they've suggested.

There were videos, but was it of what you were told?

Any actual corroborating evidence

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Let's not forget who the Ukrainians are.
They almost blew the world 40 years ago and tried to keep it a secret instead of asking for help pronto.

Under Russian control at the time I believe.

 

[gant]

There were videos, but was it of what you were told?

Any actual corroborating evidence ?

I've an open mind on the video, because the first thing that goes out of the window is 'truth' where wars are involved.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Edit post 21 then to reflect that because as it stands it sounds like your saying it's across the board.

Post 21 was accurate

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I've an open mind on the video, because the first thing that goes out of the window is 'truth' where wars are involved.

So until, or unless it is proven, its just baseless.

And you clearly claimed....

? What I got from it apart from the money, was sending men to the front line who weren't physically capable and students being rounded up.

 

[denso13]

Edit post 21 then to reflect that because as it stands it sounds like your saying it's across the board.

No, it is clear what I was referring to. Look at what I quoted.

Do you agree that statement they made was just wrong?

 

[gant]

Post 21 was accurate

Not if you can't confirm it's not been reported in the papers mentioned.

 

[gant]

So until, or unless it is proven, its just baseless.

And you clearly claimed....

? What I got from it apart from the money, was sending men to the front line who weren't physically capable and students being rounded up.

Wouldn't anybody draw that conclusion, doesn't mean it's true.

 

[denso13]

Not if you can't confirm it's not been reported in the papers mentioned.

It didn't come from a paper. It was said by a presenter.

Do you agree this is wrong, "a whole generation of young men killed because of this corruption and phoney proxy war"?

 

[johnny2007]

You can't blame them for an accident.

Russia invaded Crimea, and we all ignored it. How is that Ukraine's fault?

I blame them for trying to keep an accident of that scale a secret.

Why did Russia invaded Crimea?
Weren't your friend executing Russians in that area?

 

[johnny2007]

Under Russian control at the time I believe.

Russians intervened a week later.
The Ukrainians tried to patch it up and keep it a secret.

 

[gant]

It didn't come from a paper. It was said by a presenter.

Do you agree this is wrong, "a whole generation of young men killed because of this corruption and phoney proxy war"?

Why would I need to agree or disagree. A lot of what's said during wars is done for effect which is the case in this instance. It's rather sad young men lose their lives in war is what concerns me more than your point scoring.