Dr Andrew Wakefield and the MMR vaccine

And on we go further down the page ...

"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.

Recorded or not recorded at all... does it really matter eh ? Death and injury is just a concidence according to VAERS... Oh, and also don't worry about disease that develops some months/years outside the parameters of VAERS... these dieases will have developed a long time after having been vaccinated, so they can't possibly be related,..... right ... ? Anyone yet failed to notice the multiple admissions listed in just a few paragraphs that claim vaccinations do cause a whole spectrum of side effects ?

And on we go..

A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.

Ahhh right. A nice little paragraph there casting doubt in the readers mind that vaccinations are attributable. Just speculative opinion of course, it's starting to sound like a broken record.

A different page now from VAERS https://vaers.hhs.gov/index/about/index

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national vaccine safety surveillance program co-sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS is a post-marketing safety surveillance program that collects information about adverse events (possible side effects) that occur after the administration of vaccines licensed for use in the United States.

Oh... a ''post-marketing safety surveillance program'', or experiment you could say. Injecting vaccinations on mass, having not established that they are even safe.. makes total sense. Who cares if a few thousand children/adults develop mutilations or die in the process ..

And on we go...

''VAERS receives around 30,000 reports annually, with 13% classified as serious (e.g., associated with disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness or death) (CDC VAERS Master Search Tool, April 2, 2008). Since 1990, VAERS has received over 200,000 reports, most of which describe mild side effects such as fever. Very rarely, people experience serious adverse events following immunization. By monitoring such events, VAERS helps to identify any important new safety concerns and thereby assists in ensuring that the benefits of vaccines continue to be far greater than the risks.

Many different types of adverse events occur after vaccination. About 85-90% of the reports describe mild adverse events such as fever, local reactions, and episodes of crying or mild irritability. The remaining reports reflect serious adverse events involving life-threatening conditions, hospitalization, permanent disability, or death, which may or may not have been caused by a vaccine.''

So there are risks, but there aren't risks, anyway don't worry just leave it to us... Ahahahahahah, and I'm the ignorant one ? Let's not forget :

''The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report.''

I'm sure there's no foul play in terms of how the data is colllected, compiled and categorised by the way ..... :D

Fancy having a look ?? ..................

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/data

Balls back in your court donkey brain (or for anyone in the same court)

p.s I really enjoyed picking that to pieces :mrgreen:
 
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Harmful diseases have reduced due to better sanitation and better nutrition
Got a citation for that bucko?
Link me to credible studies showing there is no harm from vaccinations

No one is saying that a vaccine has never caused harm.

Some people have adverse reactions to them. But on the whole they have improved the health of human kind.

''No one is saying that a vaccine has never caused harm.....'' ....''Some people have adverse reactions to them. But on the whole they have improved the health of human kind.'' - mikeey84 (2016)

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Link me to credible studies showing there is no harm from vaccinations.
Read this sponge brain...http://www.vaccinateyourbaby.org/safe/index.cfm

A link to ''The College Of Physicians of Philadelphia'' - a non-profict organisation that just happens to recieve corporate grants....

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/donors

Oh look, none other than glaxosmithkline (a British pharmaceutical company)

Oh

But of course they wouldn't have a vested interest in influencing ''our aim to educate the public on the history of vaccines.'' ...

''Corporate contributions are in the form of educational grants. Agreements with corporate contributors specify that donors do not have review of or control over the content or policies of The History of Vaccines.''

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/donors :ROFLMAO:

.... and Tony Blair was the peace keeper of the middle east ...
Does your tin foil hat stop you from getting ill? Is that why you don't believe in vaccinations?

Ahh the old ad hominems :love:
 
A link to ''The College Of Physicians of Philadelphia'' - a non-profict organisation that just happens to recieve corporate grants....

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/donors

Oh look, none other than glaxosmithkline (a British pharmaceutical company)

Oh

But of course they wouldn't have a vested interest in influencing ''our aim to educate the public on the history of vaccines.'' ...

''Corporate contributions are in the form of educational grants. Agreements with corporate contributors specify that donors do not have review of or control over the content or policies of The History of Vaccines.''

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/donors :ROFLMAO:

.... and Tony Blair was the peace keeper of the middle east ...
Who do you think funds scientific research?
Most research funding comes from two major sources, corporations (through research and development departments) and government (primarily carried out through universities and specialized government agencies; often known as research councils). Some small amounts of scientific research are carried out (or funded) by charitable foundations, especially in relation to developing cures for diseases such as cancer, malaria and AIDS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

Thanks for helping prove my point
 
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Harmful diseases have reduced due to better sanitation and better nutrition
Got a citation for that bucko?
Link me to credible studies showing there is no harm from vaccinations

No one is saying that a vaccine has never caused harm.

Some people have adverse reactions to them. But on the whole they have improved the health of human kind.

''No one is saying that a vaccine has never caused harm.....'' ....''Some people have adverse reactions to them. But on the whole they have improved the health of human kind.'' - mikeey84 (2016)

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Ah, an ad hominem attack. Classy.
 
Harmful diseases have reduced due to better sanitation and better nutrition
Got a citation for that bucko?
Link me to credible studies showing there is no harm from vaccinations

No one is saying that a vaccine has never caused harm.

Some people have adverse reactions to them. But on the whole they have improved the health of human kind.

''No one is saying that a vaccine has never caused harm.....'' ....''Some people have adverse reactions to them. But on the whole they have improved the health of human kind.'' - mikeey84 (2016)

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Still waiting for that citation...
 
And on we go further down the page ...

"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.

Recorded or not recorded at all... does it really matter eh ? Death and injury is just a concidence according to VAERS... Oh, and also don't worry about disease that develops some months/years outside the parameters of VAERS... these dieases will have developed a long time after having been vaccinated, so they can't possibly be related,..... right ... ? Anyone yet failed to notice the multiple admissions listed in just a few paragraphs that claim vaccinations do cause a whole spectrum of side effects ?

And on we go..

A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.

Ahhh right. A nice little paragraph there casting doubt in the readers mind that vaccinations are attributable. Just speculative opinion of course, it's starting to sound like a broken record.

A different page now from VAERS https://vaers.hhs.gov/index/about/index

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national vaccine safety surveillance program co-sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS is a post-marketing safety surveillance program that collects information about adverse events (possible side effects) that occur after the administration of vaccines licensed for use in the United States.

Oh... a ''post-marketing safety surveillance program'', or experiment you could say. Injecting vaccinations on mass, having not established that they are even safe.. makes total sense. Who cares if a few thousand children/adults develop mutilations or die in the process ..

And on we go...

''VAERS receives around 30,000 reports annually, with 13% classified as serious (e.g., associated with disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness or death) (CDC VAERS Master Search Tool, April 2, 2008). Since 1990, VAERS has received over 200,000 reports, most of which describe mild side effects such as fever. Very rarely, people experience serious adverse events following immunization. By monitoring such events, VAERS helps to identify any important new safety concerns and thereby assists in ensuring that the benefits of vaccines continue to be far greater than the risks.

Many different types of adverse events occur after vaccination. About 85-90% of the reports describe mild adverse events such as fever, local reactions, and episodes of crying or mild irritability. The remaining reports reflect serious adverse events involving life-threatening conditions, hospitalization, permanent disability, or death, which may or may not have been caused by a vaccine.''

So there are risks, but there aren't risks, anyway don't worry just leave it to us... Ahahahahahah, and I'm the ignorant one ? Let's not forget :

''The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report.''

I'm sure there's no foul play in terms of how the data is colllected, compiled and categorised by the way ..... :D

Fancy having a look ?? ..................

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/data

Balls back in your court donkey brain (or for anyone in the same court)

p.s I really enjoyed picking that to pieces :mrgreen:

Do you have any data that shows the adverse reactions affect more people than the diseases they protect against?
 
Link me to credible studies showing there is no harm from vaccinations.
Read this sponge brain...http://www.vaccinateyourbaby.org/safe/index.cfm

Ah, ok, I will. So here goes...

http://www.ecbt.org/index.php/about/article/scientific_advisory_board

The ECBT takes recommendations from the ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices)
Here : http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/committee/members.html

Is a list of their serving members and ''non-members''

''The ACIP consists of 15 experts who are voting members and are responsible for making vaccine recommendations. The Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) selects these members after an application, interview, and nomination process. Fourteen of the members have expertise in vaccinology, immunology, pediatrics, internal medicine, nursing, family medicine, virology, public health, infectious diseases, and/or preventive medicine; one member is a consumer representative who provides perspectives on the social and community aspects of vaccination.

In addition to the 15 voting members, ACIP includes 8 ex officio members who represent other federal agencies with responsibility for immunization programs in the United States, and 30 non-voting representatives of liaison organizations that bring related immunization expertise.

Members and representatives serve on the Committee voluntarily.''
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/about.html


Ah.. just quickly, let's have a quick look at a typical vaccination schedule being rolled out across american right now..

http://familydoctor.org/dam/familydoctor/documents/2015adultimmslong.pdf (approved by the AAFP - just one of the ''non-voting bodies'' that happen to sit on the ACIP)

''Report all clinically significant postvaccination reactions to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Reporting forms and instructions on filing a VAERS
report are available at
www.vaers.hhs.gov

or by telephone, 800-822-7967.
Information on how to file a Vaccine Injury Compensation Program claim is available at
www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation

or by telephone, 800-338-2382. To file a
claim for vaccine injury, contact the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, 717 Madison Place, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20005; telephone, 202-357-6400.''

So there's a procedure for compensation... I thought vaccinations were safe ?!?!?!.. So let's have a look at https://vaers.hhs.gov/index ...

''The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national vaccine safety surveillance program co-sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS is a post-marketing safety surveillance program, collecting information about adverse events (possible side effects) that occur after the administration of vaccines licensed for use in the United States.

VAERS provides a nationwide mechanism by which adverse events following immunization may be reported, analyzed, and made available to the public. VAERS also provides a vehicle for disseminating vaccine safety-related information to parents and guardians, health care providers, vaccine manufacturers, state vaccine programs, and other constituencies.''


... oh dear, did someone mention the FDA? (THE FOOD AND DRUG A.D.M.I.N.I.S.T.R.A.T.I.O.N) They would have no vested interest in censoring and manipulating data would they???.. Of course they wouldn't ...

Oh look, just the index page ... https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/index

''When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.''

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. People just die all the time of course, it's a conicidence. Wait a minute, were side effects not mentioned just a paragraph ago ???

Let's move on then..

the next two paragraphs from the same link ...

''More than 10 million vaccines per year are given to children less than 1 year old, usually between 2 and 6 months of age. At this age, infants are at greatest risk for certain medical adverse events, including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). Some infants will experience these medical events shortly after a vaccination by coincidence.

These coincidences make it difficult to know whether a particular adverse event resulted from a medical condition or from a vaccination. Therefore, vaccine providers are encouraged to report all adverse events following vaccination, whether or not they believe the vaccination was the cause.''

Ahahahaha, yup. Again, it's just a conicidence. It's not related to the vaccination(s) because we say it isn't, just believe us. We have no evidence from proper trials or studies, just believe us and not those nasty conspiracy theorists/ tin foil hat wearers. Asking questions is bad for your health.
There have been many studies showing that childhood conditions such as SIDS are not caused by vaccines

But then you obviously aren't concerned about studies that do not follow the narrative you have in your brain.

Open your eyes sheeple you are being hoodwinked by the homeopaths and acupuncturists.
 
A link to ''The College Of Physicians of Philadelphia'' - a non-profict organisation that just happens to recieve corporate grants....

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/donors

Oh look, none other than glaxosmithkline (a British pharmaceutical company)

Oh

But of course they wouldn't have a vested interest in influencing ''our aim to educate the public on the history of vaccines.'' ...

''Corporate contributions are in the form of educational grants. Agreements with corporate contributors specify that donors do not have review of or control over the content or policies of The History of Vaccines.''

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/donors :ROFLMAO:

.... and Tony Blair was the peace keeper of the middle east ...
Who do you think funds scientific research?
Most research funding comes from two major sources, corporations (through research and development departments) and government (primarily carried out through universities and specialized government agencies; often known as research councils). Some small amounts of scientific research are carried out (or funded) by charitable foundations, especially in relation to developing cures for diseases such as cancer, malaria and AIDS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

Thanks for helping prove my point
It was actually to illustrate that without commercial funding of scientific research, the funding would fall to about 10% to 20% of that now available.
According to OECD, around two-thirds of research and development in scientific and technical fields is carried out by industries, and 20% and 10% respectively by universities and government
 
Harmful diseases have reduced due to better sanitation and better nutrition
Got a citation for that bucko?
Link me to credible studies showing there is no harm from vaccinations

No one is saying that a vaccine has never caused harm.

Some people have adverse reactions to them. But on the whole they have improved the health of human kind.

''No one is saying that a vaccine has never caused harm.....'' ....''Some people have adverse reactions to them. But on the whole they have improved the health of human kind.'' - mikeey84 (2016)

View attachment 96698
Ah, an ad hominem attack. Classy.

Fight fire with fire and all that :D

And on we go further down the page ...

"Underreporting" is one of the main limitations of passive surveillance systems, including VAERS. The term, underreporting refers to the fact that VAERS receives reports for only a small fraction of actual adverse events. The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report. Physicians and patients understand that minor side effects of vaccinations often include this kind of discomfort, as well as low fevers. On the other hand, more serious and unexpected medical events are probably more likely to be reported than minor ones, especially when they occur soon after vaccination, even if they may be coincidental and related to other causes.

Recorded or not recorded at all... does it really matter eh ? Death and injury is just a concidence according to VAERS... Oh, and also don't worry about disease that develops some months/years outside the parameters of VAERS... these dieases will have developed a long time after having been vaccinated, so they can't possibly be related,..... right ... ? Anyone yet failed to notice the multiple admissions listed in just a few paragraphs that claim vaccinations do cause a whole spectrum of side effects ?

And on we go..

A report to VAERS generally does not prove that the identified vaccine(s) caused the adverse event described. It only confirms that the reported event occurred sometime after vaccine was given. No proof that the event was caused by the vaccine is required in order for VAERS to accept the report. VAERS accepts all reports without judging whether the event was caused by the vaccine.

Ahhh right. A nice little paragraph there casting doubt in the readers mind that vaccinations are attributable. Just speculative opinion of course, it's starting to sound like a broken record.

A different page now from VAERS https://vaers.hhs.gov/index/about/index

The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national vaccine safety surveillance program co-sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS is a post-marketing safety surveillance program that collects information about adverse events (possible side effects) that occur after the administration of vaccines licensed for use in the United States.

Oh... a ''post-marketing safety surveillance program'', or experiment you could say. Injecting vaccinations on mass, having not established that they are even safe.. makes total sense. Who cares if a few thousand children/adults develop mutilations or die in the process ..

And on we go...

''VAERS receives around 30,000 reports annually, with 13% classified as serious (e.g., associated with disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness or death) (CDC VAERS Master Search Tool, April 2, 2008). Since 1990, VAERS has received over 200,000 reports, most of which describe mild side effects such as fever. Very rarely, people experience serious adverse events following immunization. By monitoring such events, VAERS helps to identify any important new safety concerns and thereby assists in ensuring that the benefits of vaccines continue to be far greater than the risks.

Many different types of adverse events occur after vaccination. About 85-90% of the reports describe mild adverse events such as fever, local reactions, and episodes of crying or mild irritability. The remaining reports reflect serious adverse events involving life-threatening conditions, hospitalization, permanent disability, or death, which may or may not have been caused by a vaccine.''

So there are risks, but there aren't risks, anyway don't worry just leave it to us... Ahahahahahah, and I'm the ignorant one ? Let's not forget :

''The degree of underreporting varies widely. As an example, a great many of the millions of vaccinations administered each year by injection cause soreness, but relatively few of these episodes lead to a VAERS report.''

I'm sure there's no foul play in terms of how the data is colllected, compiled and categorised by the way ..... :D

Fancy having a look ?? ..................

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/data

Balls back in your court donkey brain (or for anyone in the same court)

p.s I really enjoyed picking that to pieces :mrgreen:

Do you have any data that shows the adverse reactions affect more people than the diseases they protect against?

:D Couldn't say much back to that could you ;)
 
Link me to credible studies showing there is no harm from vaccinations.
Read this sponge brain...http://www.vaccinateyourbaby.org/safe/index.cfm

Ah, ok, I will. So here goes...

http://www.ecbt.org/index.php/about/article/scientific_advisory_board

The ECBT takes recommendations from the ACIP (Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices)
Here : http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/committee/members.html

Is a list of their serving members and ''non-members''

''The ACIP consists of 15 experts who are voting members and are responsible for making vaccine recommendations. The Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) selects these members after an application, interview, and nomination process. Fourteen of the members have expertise in vaccinology, immunology, pediatrics, internal medicine, nursing, family medicine, virology, public health, infectious diseases, and/or preventive medicine; one member is a consumer representative who provides perspectives on the social and community aspects of vaccination.

In addition to the 15 voting members, ACIP includes 8 ex officio members who represent other federal agencies with responsibility for immunization programs in the United States, and 30 non-voting representatives of liaison organizations that bring related immunization expertise.

Members and representatives serve on the Committee voluntarily.''
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/about.html


Ah.. just quickly, let's have a quick look at a typical vaccination schedule being rolled out across american right now..

http://familydoctor.org/dam/familydoctor/documents/2015adultimmslong.pdf (approved by the AAFP - just one of the ''non-voting bodies'' that happen to sit on the ACIP)

''Report all clinically significant postvaccination reactions to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Reporting forms and instructions on filing a VAERS
report are available at
www.vaers.hhs.gov

or by telephone, 800-822-7967.
Information on how to file a Vaccine Injury Compensation Program claim is available at
www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation

or by telephone, 800-338-2382. To file a
claim for vaccine injury, contact the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, 717 Madison Place, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20005; telephone, 202-357-6400.''

So there's a procedure for compensation... I thought vaccinations were safe ?!?!?!.. So let's have a look at https://vaers.hhs.gov/index ...

''The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is a national vaccine safety surveillance program co-sponsored by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). VAERS is a post-marketing safety surveillance program, collecting information about adverse events (possible side effects) that occur after the administration of vaccines licensed for use in the United States.

VAERS provides a nationwide mechanism by which adverse events following immunization may be reported, analyzed, and made available to the public. VAERS also provides a vehicle for disseminating vaccine safety-related information to parents and guardians, health care providers, vaccine manufacturers, state vaccine programs, and other constituencies.''


... oh dear, did someone mention the FDA? (THE FOOD AND DRUG A.D.M.I.N.I.S.T.R.A.T.I.O.N) They would have no vested interest in censoring and manipulating data would they???.. Of course they wouldn't ...

Oh look, just the index page ... https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/index

''When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.''

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. People just die all the time of course, it's a conicidence. Wait a minute, were side effects not mentioned just a paragraph ago ???

Let's move on then..

the next two paragraphs from the same link ...

''More than 10 million vaccines per year are given to children less than 1 year old, usually between 2 and 6 months of age. At this age, infants are at greatest risk for certain medical adverse events, including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). Some infants will experience these medical events shortly after a vaccination by coincidence.

These coincidences make it difficult to know whether a particular adverse event resulted from a medical condition or from a vaccination. Therefore, vaccine providers are encouraged to report all adverse events following vaccination, whether or not they believe the vaccination was the cause.''

Ahahahaha, yup. Again, it's just a conicidence. It's not related to the vaccination(s) because we say it isn't, just believe us. We have no evidence from proper trials or studies, just believe us and not those nasty conspiracy theorists/ tin foil hat wearers. Asking questions is bad for your health.
There have been many studies showing that childhood conditions such as SIDS are not caused by vaccines

But then you obviously aren't concerned about studies that do not follow the narrative you have in your brain.

Open your eyes sheeple you are being hoodwinked by the homeopaths and acupuncturists.

...SHOW ME ...

and ... ''hoodwinked by homepaths and acupunturists'' :LOL:

A link to ''The College Of Physicians of Philadelphia'' - a non-profict organisation that just happens to recieve corporate grants....

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/donors

Oh look, none other than glaxosmithkline (a British pharmaceutical company)

Oh

But of course they wouldn't have a vested interest in influencing ''our aim to educate the public on the history of vaccines.'' ...

''Corporate contributions are in the form of educational grants. Agreements with corporate contributors specify that donors do not have review of or control over the content or policies of The History of Vaccines.''

http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/donors :ROFLMAO:

.... and Tony Blair was the peace keeper of the middle east ...
Who do you think funds scientific research?
Most research funding comes from two major sources, corporations (through research and development departments) and government (primarily carried out through universities and specialized government agencies; often known as research councils). Some small amounts of scientific research are carried out (or funded) by charitable foundations, especially in relation to developing cures for diseases such as cancer, malaria and AIDS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funding_of_science

Thanks for helping prove my point
It was actually to illustrate that without commercial funding of scientific research, the funding would fall to about 10% to 20% of that now available.
According to OECD, around two-thirds of research and development in scientific and technical fields is carried out by industries, and 20% and 10% respectively by universities and government

The point being a commercial company is going to fund schemes which complement their profit focus/incentives. The more vaccinations they get to sell the more money they get to make, and you expect impartiality in these matters ??? ..... The naivety of some people I find staggering. You actually reinforced my point without even realising it :D
 
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