Driving in Europe
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Splitting hairs again.Seriously, I only know one person that still has a paper licence and they don’t drive in Europe. Can anyone on here who drives in Europe honestly say they have a paper licence and drive in Europe?
Mottie quickly reverses away.
A wee point on mobile phone roaming.
I'm on O2, my partner has a Spanish mobile on Vodafone. In some areas where she had no signal, I always had a signal.
I put it down to the fact that she had to rely on Vodafone whereas, because I was roaming, my phone was free to use signals from more suppliers.
That's my theory at least.
I would just like to say; I can see that there is a lot of content on this topic that I am ignoring. So, if you reply to one of my posts and don't get a reply, you will probably know why that is.
I'm on O2, my partner has a Spanish mobile on Vodafone. In some areas where she had no signal, I always had a signal.
I put it down to the fact that she had to rely on Vodafone whereas, because I was roaming, my phone was free to use signals from more suppliers.
That's my theory at least.
I would just like to say; I can see that there is a lot of content on this topic that I am ignoring. So, if you reply to one of my posts and don't get a reply, you will probably know why that is.
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Driving in EU, can't even get a licence to drive in UK, started in January to try and change address on licence, it said with so little time left may as well move to photo licence as March I was 70, warning if done on line may lose the ability to drive some things old licence allowed, but felt better to get licence fast so did it on line, then sent an on line application form D801 which was a problem as in lock down, so it said must be returned in 21 days, and must be signed by some one who knew me for 3 years, or could use post office, checked on post offices offering service and it included local one, so as soon as got first jab went to local post office, told sorry no we don't do that any more, but on web site it said 21 days extended to 90 days due to Colvid19, so found some one to sign form and returned it well within time 56 days.
In spite of form being sent to new address, the website would only show licence status if I entered old post code, the tracking number said Transaction Completed: No Licence issued with transaction date 21/01/2021 which was way before even the 21 days ran out, so it seemed web sites not updated, 99 days after I had applied for licence my form was returned telling me after 28 days computer applications are deleted, I need to re-apply, but do not need to submit proof of identity again that has been logged just return the forms after applying on line again.
I now get both "In Progress: Awaiting Application Return Form" it has been in the post 8 days, and the original "Transaction Completed: No Licence issued" not a clue which if any is valid. The licence check still will only work with old post code and says "Your full driving licence has expired".
Reading the web site it says under rule 88 if you have applied for a licence and the application is valid you can still drive for one year while waiting, however unless the DVLA say it is valid how do you know, I thought my first application was valid. It also says you can drive as long as your entitlement has not expired, why would you need to drive under rule 88 if licence had not expired?
It seems DVLA has a problem with English, I am sure it means if the entitlement will has expired when new licence issued.
If you were an EU government and you know the British licensing authority is in turmoil would you accept a British licence? My wife in same boat, she got caught speeding, and until that point thought she had a licence, well not in her procession as like mine sent in for change of address, but it seems her licence has been revoked, until the court told her she had no licence she had not a clue this had happened, and in spite sending licence into DVLA they had not replied even to say can't change address as licence revoked, nothing has even been received from DVLA to say was going to be revoked, or was revoked, or why revoked. No letter to say they got her licence, or letter asking what was going on, or acknowledgement that an application for a photo licence has been received.
Since no valid passport neither of us will be travelling abroad, and before we joined the EU I know we had to go to the AA booth in Chester and get an international driving licence after showing our British licence, and it could be issued on the strength of either of my British licences the UK one or Falklands one. The AA booth is long gone, so I suspect there is some other method used today, the main thing was the licence issued by the AA had ones photo on it, and was in many languages so when presented to the Algerian police they could read what I was allowed to drive.
How "Heavy Motor Cars", "Motor Cars", "Motor Tractors", and "Motor Cycles" is translated into the groups shown on a modern licence I don't know? As to hiring cars I remember I remember in Turkey the hire company would not hire a car to son-in-law with Turkish licence, they wanted a British one. So it seems car hire companies have their own rules.
In spite of form being sent to new address, the website would only show licence status if I entered old post code, the tracking number said Transaction Completed: No Licence issued with transaction date 21/01/2021 which was way before even the 21 days ran out, so it seemed web sites not updated, 99 days after I had applied for licence my form was returned telling me after 28 days computer applications are deleted, I need to re-apply, but do not need to submit proof of identity again that has been logged just return the forms after applying on line again.
I now get both "In Progress: Awaiting Application Return Form" it has been in the post 8 days, and the original "Transaction Completed: No Licence issued" not a clue which if any is valid. The licence check still will only work with old post code and says "Your full driving licence has expired".
Reading the web site it says under rule 88 if you have applied for a licence and the application is valid you can still drive for one year while waiting, however unless the DVLA say it is valid how do you know, I thought my first application was valid. It also says you can drive as long as your entitlement has not expired, why would you need to drive under rule 88 if licence had not expired?
It seems DVLA has a problem with English, I am sure it means if the entitlement will has expired when new licence issued.
If you were an EU government and you know the British licensing authority is in turmoil would you accept a British licence? My wife in same boat, she got caught speeding, and until that point thought she had a licence, well not in her procession as like mine sent in for change of address, but it seems her licence has been revoked, until the court told her she had no licence she had not a clue this had happened, and in spite sending licence into DVLA they had not replied even to say can't change address as licence revoked, nothing has even been received from DVLA to say was going to be revoked, or was revoked, or why revoked. No letter to say they got her licence, or letter asking what was going on, or acknowledgement that an application for a photo licence has been received.
Since no valid passport neither of us will be travelling abroad, and before we joined the EU I know we had to go to the AA booth in Chester and get an international driving licence after showing our British licence, and it could be issued on the strength of either of my British licences the UK one or Falklands one. The AA booth is long gone, so I suspect there is some other method used today, the main thing was the licence issued by the AA had ones photo on it, and was in many languages so when presented to the Algerian police they could read what I was allowed to drive.
How "Heavy Motor Cars", "Motor Cars", "Motor Tractors", and "Motor Cycles" is translated into the groups shown on a modern licence I don't know? As to hiring cars I remember I remember in Turkey the hire company would not hire a car to son-in-law with Turkish licence, they wanted a British one. So it seems car hire companies have their own rules.
and his buddies hadn't voted against everything, an agreement might have been reached earlier
or if Boris and his buddies hadn't agreed to things,and then declared they didn't like what they had signed, we might not be in such a mess.
or if Boris and his buddies hadn't lied and claimed they had an "oven ready deal" and would "get Brexit done" his supporters might not have felt quite so impelled to pretend it was all sorted.
Five years and two months.
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I see you persist in trying to dismiss the truth being presented which shows you were being untruthful as "splitting hairs".Splitting hairs again.
Couldnt you try "pedantry" for a bit of variety? Thats another favourite way for people who have been shown to be wrong to try and claim that people who are right should be ignored, and that they, the people in the wrong, should be listened to.
Yes.
I havent moved house for a long time and Ive never had my licence taken away from me.
There are millions the same https://www.independent.co.uk/property/how-often-do-people-move-house-8969393.html
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Couldnt have that, could we?
Voting as an expression of democratic control, and court cases because the government should act lawfully?
Absolute anathema to people like you, who want totalitarian criminals in charge.
I think youll find that by far and away the biggest bunch of cry-babies and whiners these days are the winners.
The country destroyed by liars and the idiot voters who believed them?
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Then dont join in, dont post.
If you are so petty and childish that you want to play a sulky game of "nah nah nah cant hear you" then go away and find some toddlers to play with.
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When did you have that brain scan done?
Say John. You move about a bit and still say you only have a paper licence. I didn’t think you could do that. Are you notifying DVLA of your change of address?
Good for you. I’m not disputing it. My wife still has only a paper licence too. However, I’m still waiting for @JohnD to tell us all how he still only has a paper licence yet claims to have moved. Either we are going to get a bit of deflection, some waffle or as I suspect, he'll put his fingers in his ears and go la la la la la la …….
Looks like he's slipped up again and told a porky to beef up a position he's taken in post.
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It you hire vehicles, then you need to go on line and allow the hire company to view licence details. However no need for that with your own car. So we or at least I never bothered to check licence on line, so if for any reason it was revoked I would not know unless the DVLA tell me, and it transpires they don't tell one.
So it is possible @JohnD has no licence but is unaware of fact it has been revoked.
So it is possible @JohnD has no licence but is unaware of fact it has been revoked.
It’s more possible that in his eagerness to take an opposite stance to what I said, he constructed a fib without checking the facts and has now clammed up. He has form for this.
JohnD doesn’t care or know about the driving licence laws.
i have no reason to suppose it has been revoked.
Why do you think it might have been?
Pay no attention to stalker mottie, he has an unhealthy obsession in finding out the true names, occupations, locations and other personal details of website users.
I don't suppose he's read the rules of the site.
Eh? I’m not asking for your occupation or any personal details of yours - are you just employing diversionary tactics? You have told of your name and your locations. You said you had a paper licence, according to your avatar you have moved from Greenock to coastal to Crossgates. The law says you have to notify them of your change of address. When you do that with a paper licence, you have to get a photo card license yet you say you only have a paper one. The rules of the site say nothing about challenging things that people say. If you choose not to answer that’s entirely up to you. If I come to a conclusion, that’s entirely up to me. Unless I have misunderstood something wrong, I conclude you are a liar. Feel free to correct me if I have.
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