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tis not a question of justification I just have an issue with the number of 6500 consrtuction workers dying whilst building a stadium ??

what was it accidents ??????

I'm not suggesting it was murder. Its a dangerous industry, Workers need protection
 
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Germany held their mouths and said England where Blackmailed.



"We lost the armband and it is very painful but we are the same people as before with the same values. We are not impostors who claim they have values and then betray them," Mr Simon said.

Now you have exposed what we all knew already , why not wear the colourful arm band for the next set of fixtures... maybe just take a yellow card on the chin....it won't hurt that much.
 
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Flying Qatari?

Too and from Colombo.

Now I've mentioned in another thread about a conversation with a Philippino batista.

This was after the first part of the flight with my left wing Scottish independence Scottish mate. Who told me about his ex Philippino girlfriend working in Saudi. Promised everything got very little and her passport taken away.


So anyway back to the airport. The Philippino batista (can't remember his name) told me about his experience.

He said not so bad, well at least it was better than working in Saudi (Less strict) ... But the football lot are having it hard. (Not word for word)
From this conversation I started reading up on it.

Yes I suppose I could have boycotted the flight home....... and I did object the day FiFa announced that Qatar had the 2022 World Cup as I did with Russia.

What else can a plumber from Essex do.
 
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This probably comes under the heading Be Careful What You Wish For, but the news that the Saudi govt. are encouraging private company investors to consider buying Manchester United (or Liverpool) made me wonder how the Glazer protestors will feel if United take the petro-dollar to maintain their place at the top table of club football.
@TheGuardian.com

In hosting major sporting events including boxing world title fights Saudi has been accused of sportwashing to deflect criticism of its record on human rights. But Prince Abdulaziz claimed doing so has been positive for his nation’s people.
“The numbers don’t lie – when you look at participation in boxing, from six gyms in 2018 to 57 gyms today. A 300% participation increase, 60% are women, which was a shock for us. When you see appetite from the youth, men and women, they learned from it. If it’s making the country better and fixing a lot of the social issues we have in terms of participation then that’s a benefit for us,” he said.

And isn't that among the reasons why FIFA awarded the competition to Qatar - and South Africa; South Korea/Japan? To develop the game and bring investment into these regions in order to develop sporting links with the rest of the world.
It could be argued that it does work: South Korea and Japan have greatly improved during the past 20 years, although S.Africa hasn't because political corruption is much greater, perhaps, while S.K and Japan have a more stable government by comparison.

If the Western governments felt so strongly about Qatar's record on human rights then shouldn't similar sanctions be imposed, such as Iran and Russia currently face?
 
Ive learned the difference between some of the Arab states…
On how they differ in laws and censorship. For instance;
Qatar wont show the Flintstones on TV, but Abu Dhabi do!
 
Ive learned the difference between some of the Arab states…
On how they differ in laws and censorship. For instance;
Qatar wont show the Flintstones on TV, but Abu Dhabi do!
You mean they yabba-dabba-don't?
Shocking:eek:
 
maybe just take a yellow card on the chin....it won't hurt that much.
Yeah, like times when Beckham got sent off for 2 yellow cards. Did no harm. OK, we lost, but nothing to do with only have 10 players and losing a captain.

In most games somebody will get a yellow card, sometimes several players if things get heated. And you can beat a team would get more physical against England if they knew they were all carrying 1 yellow already. If you already have one, it means they will get sent off. We'd be playing with 8 or 9 men after 90 minutes.

They've made their point, awareness has been raised, now let them get on with the football and stop calling our English players weak, hypocrites ctc.
 
And Wales just proved that point. OK, immediate red card, but still, lost the match because of it.
 
And Wales just proved that point. OK, immediate red card, but still, lost the match because of it.

It was a red card.....

So happy for Iran you could tell it meant so much. I'm a soppy Sod so no surprise I had a tear during the Iranian national anthem..

They were brilliant
 
It was a red card.....

Yes, but if your whole teams starts a game with yellow cards, it is very likely some will be sent off before the match is over.
 
Yes, but if your whole teams starts a game with yellow cards, it is very likely some will be sent off before the match is over.

Did you notice the whole Iranian team were singing the National Anthem today. I'm wondering if they where threatened by something more painful than a yellow card..... by someone more sinister than Fifa.
 
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