English kids good at reading.

[motorbiking]

@ellal Is there anything in the article that says it's just English Language? Previously we were beaten by Poland, Finland and Russia. I can't imagine this would be English Language on that basis.

 

[motorbiking]

10% of the population, 40% of C-level.

It seems they get some compensation elsewhere

 

[blup]

It's always a good strategy to find people who might vote for you, but can't and then champion their vote.

We should start by removing the linking of pay to time served. This blocks talent coming in to teaching from an industry background. There is also often no requirement to have any experience or qualifications in the subject they are teaching. Law, business and Computing are good examples. You only have to talk to the teachers to realise they don't have any real knowledge. People learn better if you can bring the subject to life. That usually requires experience.

How can you teach people to teach? The private sector accepts degrees without relevant teaching certificates, but the public sector teachers are aghast at the idea.

Blup

 

[Brigadier]

How can you teach people to teach?

Teach them?

 

[SirGalahad]

How can you teach people to teach? The private sector accepts degrees without relevant teaching certificates, but the public sector teachers are aghast at the idea.

Blup

It was ever thus - just water everything down because they cannot grow the economy so its punch down economics, result is ever increasing debt as a way to cover lower demand and higher prices.

The debt will just increase and increase - look at history and debt cycles - in ancient times you had debt jubilees where rulers would write off debt because in the end the debt will become impossible to pay.

 

[JP_]

How can you teach people to teach? The private sector accepts degrees without relevant teaching certificates, but the public sector teachers are aghast at the idea.

Blup

Public sector teaching is a mess with shortages meaning some schools are having to keep teachers they would not usually invest in.

 

[blup]

Teach them?

The subjects yes, but the art?

Blup

 

[Brigadier]

The subjects yes, but the art?

Blup

That's what I presumed you meant; how to teach, rather than the what to teach.


I suppose (never really thought about it) that is why schools have "teachers", but universities have "lecturers".

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Myv13 year got 100% in her latest test. She says it was easy but her teacher seemed impressed with her.
Had parents evening tonight via video link (bloody rubbish)

 

[Odds]

It's encouraging to see Primary School kids enjoying their reading but how long will it last, once they get into video games, movies and the infinite entertainment the internet can provide?
Ten years ago, English was the most popular A-level; these days it's not even in the top ten.
Between 2011 and 2021, the number of students studying English at university fell by a third, and Universities regularly cancel their English degrees almost annually. An example is the prestigious Birkbeck University where half of the department's staff were dismissed. The number of undergraduate students studying Eng. Lit. has fallen from 300 in 2012 to 30 in 2023.

 

[transam]

Our figures were slightly down on 2016 but other european countries were significantly down, so yes a testament to our dedicated teachers.

Doubtless the usual fruitcakes will be along to claim it as a brexhit benefit.

Blup

It a Brexit benefit

 

[gas112]

English kids ? should that not be kids that go to school in England

 

[motorbiking]

It's encouraging to see Primary School kids enjoying their reading but how long will it last, once they get into video games, movies and the infinite entertainment the internet can provide?
Ten years ago, English was the most popular A-level; these days it's not even in the top ten.
Between 2011 and 2021, the number of students studying English at university fell by a third, and Universities regularly cancel their English degrees almost annually. An example is the prestigious Birkbeck University where half of the department's staff were dismissed. The number of undergraduate students studying Eng. Lit. has fallen from 300 in 2012 to 30 in 2023.

Thats not necessarily a bad thing. Those graduating with an English Lit degree, will find it significantly harder to find a good graduate job, vs Maths, Economics, Law, Computing, Engineering etc.

 

[Odds]

Thats not necessarily a bad thing. Those graduating with an English Lit degree, will find it significantly harder to find a good graduate job, vs Maths, Economics, Law, Computing, Engineering etc.

That's the thing: many students have taken Business Studies as a primary means to finding a place in the job market; so when Rish! gummed on about maths recently, the trend was already bending towards these subjects. However, while subjects like English, history and art are falling the rise of psychology and sociology suggests the humanities is shifting to the left in different spheres of influence.

 

[motorbiking]

Some degrees are known to be easier than others. For some "a degree" is the goal. When I went to Uni, less than 10% of the population were going. It's risen to around 50%. You could get away with an arts degree back then, not now. I frequently recruited Graduates with pure arts degrees in the early days, but they always lagged behind compared to those with better suited qualifications. There is now a whole industry of companies exploiting these arts graduates by putting them on tax efficient graduate apprenticeships and giving them b*s* training in fields where the industry simply doesn't recognise the made up qualifications. They then lock them in with unenforceable training payback contracts.