EU unhappy with astrazeneca
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If the UK play there cards right they could come if this chinese virus caper very well
That scoundrel macron will do his up most best to try and prevent it
dunno if any one has woken the buffoon up yet
ref the French owned company in livingstone Scotland
That scoundrel macron will do his up most best to try and prevent it
dunno if any one has woken the buffoon up yet
ref the French owned company in livingstone Scotland
How and why?
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That's the funniest thing I've heard today.
It's not a complete new beginning....we've just gone back to the 1970s
Go on let's have an example of one of these opportunities.....
Shackles are off Notch.....,,
I know it’s painful to admit that you are wrong.
You’ve made a start, keep it up.
I know you are a bit......slow & have no opinion of your own but surely you can see how things have changed. Once we are through this I see very exciting times for our country.
Why don’t you move to the EU & see how excited they are about the future.
I know it’s painful to admit that you are wrong.
You’ve made a start, keep it up.
I know you are a bit......slow & have no opinion of your own but surely you can see how things have changed. Once we are through this I see very exciting times for our country.
Why don’t you move to the EU & see how excited they are about the future.
That's great to know!
Can you name some of the countries that we can now trade with, that we were unable to trade with before?
How sweet.
As soon as I ask you for an example of a Brexit exciting opportunity......you avoid answering and get all defensive.
So exciting, you can't provide a single example.
Let me help you.
Here's one example: Ireland has increased its number of direct freight ferry services to mainland EU avoiding UK as a land bridge.
Residents of Holyhead are enjoying the total lack of traffic now
LOL Maybe in some ways but in practice that is not possible in every respect. In practice that was the time when the industrial rot really got started. There were signs in the 60's. Lack of investment. Ever getting back to that really starting up again isn't going to be as simple as just leaving the EU. The problem really is many things that result in jobs needs some one to invest money. The money must show a competitive return. One of the reasons for the start of the rot that was mentioned is the end of the post war efforts to get companies to create jobs. They did but decided that the shareholders were more important. Automation results in less jobs anyway and needs heavier levels of investment. The more a company sells the more profit that can be made and invested. Many UK companies were big for us but not in worldwide terms and labour was much cheaper elsewhere. How that figures now pass but I'm pretty sure we are cheaper than we were especially in EU terms so probably generally true.
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Interesting bit of information.
Much has been said about EU being slow to approve the use of AZ vaccine. It took them about two weeks. Extraordinarily fast for the approval process for the use of drugs or vaccines.
AZ apply to EU (EMA) for approval 12/01/21
EMA approve its use 29/01/21
It took about two weeks for approval.
But the row about supply from AZ erupted on 27/01/21 only two weeks after AZ had applied for approval.
Were the EU (EMA) slow?
I suspect that if they'd been an quicker AZ would have been caught with their proverbial trousers down.
In contrast. I can't find when AZ applied to UK (MHRA), but UK approved the use of AZ vaccine on 30/12/20, and immediately the UK changed its two vaccine process to 12 weeks. The first dose was given on 4/01/21, and UK have been rushing it out as fast as they possibly could, ever since.
So UK were aware of the potential difficulties in the supply of AZ vaccine as soon as it was approved.
Edit: It looks like AZ applied for approval to UK almost as soon as clinical trials began
Much has been said about EU being slow to approve the use of AZ vaccine. It took them about two weeks. Extraordinarily fast for the approval process for the use of drugs or vaccines.
AZ apply to EU (EMA) for approval 12/01/21
EMA approve its use 29/01/21
It took about two weeks for approval.
But the row about supply from AZ erupted on 27/01/21 only two weeks after AZ had applied for approval.
Were the EU (EMA) slow?
I suspect that if they'd been an quicker AZ would have been caught with their proverbial trousers down.
In contrast. I can't find when AZ applied to UK (MHRA), but UK approved the use of AZ vaccine on 30/12/20, and immediately the UK changed its two vaccine process to 12 weeks. The first dose was given on 4/01/21, and UK have been rushing it out as fast as they possibly could, ever since.
So UK were aware of the potential difficulties in the supply of AZ vaccine as soon as it was approved.
Edit: It looks like AZ applied for approval to UK almost as soon as clinical trials began
Oxford University/AstraZeneca has been submitting data to the MHRA since September 2020 under the rolling review process, enabling data to be reviewed in stages, as it became available.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/oxford-universityastrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-approved
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/oxford-universityastrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-approved
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As woody didn't take up my invite to educate us in the process of vaccine manufacture and procurement process, I thought I'd step in, here's a simple pictorial representation of the normal process, showing that the manufacturing process is normally stepped-up after approval. We all know of course that approval, in this case has come about six months after procurement (including payments) and has not followed the normal process, so any suggestion that order payments are used for the setting up the manufacturing process are a little tired, especially as EU (EMA) approved the use of the vaccine, by AZ, about two weeks after the application to EMA, but six months after payment.
Whereas, AZ were able to deliver millions of vaccines to UK four days after that approval.
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/human-...es-development-evaluation-approval-monitoring
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Many have painted the EU (EMA) in a bad light over its rollout of the vaccines, but clearly the EMA process was properly established and its's been the failure of the delivery of the vaccines that have caused the problem.
Dated 8/01/21
Will the EU have enough capacity to manufacture the COVID-19 vaccines?
Will the EU have enough capacity to manufacture the COVID-19 vaccines?
There is already substantial vaccine production capacity in the EU – and the Commission is working intensively to increase it. In addition, and in order to ensure that vaccine developers have the necessary capacity to scale up the production of COVID-19 vaccines as soon as they have been approved by the EMA, the Commission supports the necessary investment in the development of such production capacities.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_20_2467
No wonder that they were peeved, because that vaccine supply was being diverted to UK, but when EU approved the use of the vaccine a couple of weeks later, AZ claimed problems in the production leading to shortfalls in supply.https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/qanda_20_2467
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