EV estate

Not 1 of them would be described as a reliable daily transport with low running costs.

I'm sure if you buy one in good nick, and look after it (they are not complicated, and the engines are very lightly stressed) it will be perfectly reliable.

Running costs? I'll give you that one.
 
Far cheaper to run?

Are you including reliability and parts availability?

What will you run for the time it's off the road ? 2 cars? Sort of defeats the idea

Why do you question the reliability? Inefficient, thirsty and high emitters they may be, but what makes them unreliable, and what rare parts do they need which will keep them off the road?
 
the only "whining noise" you can hear, will be the anti-EV Luddites chuntering away to themselves in the background...;)

Not true - they (newer ones) do make an odd synthetic noise, which could be called a whine, at low speeds as a safety measure to alert visually impaired people to their presence.
 
The specific numbers don't really matter, lets just say every car owner in the UK who lives in a property with no driveway, they don't have the facilities and never will.
 
You're right, funnily enough I don't have the data for the town I live in that shows how many car drivers don't have a driveway.
 
Not true - they (newer ones) do make an odd synthetic noise, which could be called a whine, at low speeds as a safety measure to alert visually impaired people to their presence.

Ah but. The claim I was objecting to was: "EVs make quite a distinctive whine, not unlike an Express Dairies milk float."

Now those old milk floats made a whine because of their cheap, straight-cut gears. The AVAS systems that you're referring to are a legal requirement for new EVs, but the manufacturer has a lot of freedom as to what kind of noise they make. It doesn't have to be a "distinctive whine, not unlike an Express Dairies milk float"... ;)
 
The specific numbers don't really matter, lets just say every car owner in the UK who lives in a property with no driveway, they don't have the facilities and never will.

I can agree that they don't (always) have the facilities, but I can't agree that they never will. In fact, I'd be very surprised if that ever ended up being the case. It certainly isn't in plenty of other countries where far more of the population than here, live in flats and apartments! Maybe that's really what's wrong with this country. Too many fatalistic, negative people dragging us back all the time...?
 
Why do you question the reliability? Inefficient, thirsty and high emitters they may be, but what makes them unreliable, and what rare parts do they need which will keep them off the road?
Virtually any part that fails. Water pump, spring, ignition part, steering part, transmission part etc

Not on the shelf and avaliable like most modern UK vehicles
 
My local council are installing chargers on lamp posts.
They are also installing plastic/metal gutters across pavements similar to the gutters that allowed rainwater to cross pavements.
In terraced area, they allow roadside charging

Quite a few car parks in town and at my workplace have fast chargers.
 
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