EV estate

[flameport]

OK so 8000 drivers have a dozen charging points if they don't have their own driveway. Sounds great!

The point you have failed to understand either deliberately or otherwise is that today, most people do not have electric vehicles and have no need for charging facilities.

Over the next few decades the number of charging points will increase, as will the number of people who have vehicles to charge.

So you have to buy an EV and wait a few years until you can charge it up after the demand has increased?

No.
If you have a driveway or other place you can charge today, then obtaining an electric vehicle is a viable option.
If not, then buying an EV today would be a foolish decision.

In the future, more people will have the option of charging and therefore more people can choose to have an electric vehicle.

Every car and other vehicle in the UK is parked somewhere for the majority of it's existence.
All of those parking places could be places to charge those vehicles.
Most of those places do not yet have charging facilities, because today most of the vehicles parked in them do not need charging.

The thousands of petrol filling stations all over the UK did not suddenly appear when the very first combustion engine cars were produced over a century ago.
Locations to obtain fuel increased gradually over time as demand and the number of vehicles increased.
Electric vehicles are no different.

 

[JohnD]

I don't want one. It's just that if they ever ban ice cars and ev is the only option, I need a vehicle which can take all my fishing tackle, which includes holdalls 2mtrs long.

When that day comes, manufacturers will cater for your desires so that they can have your money.

SUVs are currently popular, including some small cars, such as the Juke, styled to look like an SUV. Others are quite big.

A two-metre loading platform is unusually big for an ordinary car.

 

[morqthana]

The thousands of petrol filling stations all over the UK did not suddenly appear when the very first combustion engine cars were produced over a century ago.
Locations to obtain fuel increased gradually over time as demand and the number of vehicles increased.

For the first 25 years of motoring in the UK petrol pumps didn't even exist.

 

[morqthana]

A two-metre loading platform is unusually big for an ordinary car.

Well if it's a smaller estate car you're after.... https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1298121

 

[johnny2007]

Well if it's a smaller estate car you're after.... https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1298121

That's a very good price

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Yes, I know. They cost a fortune to buy, depreciate rapidly and will leave you stranded if you dare to have both the heater and radio on. But for some strange reason people still buy these EV things.

They'll never catch on!

 

[morqthana]

That's a very good price

It's also a delightful little thing.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

... keep driving their existing cars or buy secondhand. Or buy an EV? What do you think is going to happen when new ICE vehicles are banned?

And by then there will be more car parks with chargers, more on street chargers, faster chargers, service stations with chargers. It's all manageable.

and where will the Kwh for all of those come from? We are on, and beyond the limit at the moment, generating with gas and importing, to make up for the shortfall.

 

[JohnD]

Well if it's a smaller estate car you're after

I'm not.

 

[JohnD]

Yes, I know. They cost a fortune to buy, depreciate rapidly and will leave you stranded if you dare to have both the heater and radio on.

You're talking about a petrol car, then.

 

[IT Minion]

and where will the Kwh for all of those come from? We are on, and beyond the limit at the moment, generating with gas and importing, to make up for the shortfall.

Can the UK grid cope with the extra demand from electric cars? | National Grid Group

As electric vehicles (EVs) become more widespread, this is one of the most common questions we’re asked. Find out what we're doing to make sure we're ready.

www.nationalgrid.com

 

[Avocet]

and where will the Kwh for all of those come from? We are on, and beyond the limit at the moment, generating with gas and importing, to make up for the shortfall.

Sorry, but if we're "beyond the limit" shouldn't the lights have gone out by now?

 

[ReganAndCarter]

National Grid imports electricity and gas to the UK from other countries through interconnectors. The UK is a net importer of energy, and in 2023 imported 33,000 GWh of electricity.

 

[JohnD]

Not a "limit" then.

 

[Avocet]

National Grid imports electricity and gas to the UK from other countries through interconnectors. The UK is a net importer of energy, and in 2023 imported 33,000 GWh of electricity.

It imports nearly half its gas and some of its oil too, (not mention around 40% of its food), but I don't hear any hysteria about the forecourt diesel pumps running dry, the boilers going out, and the supermarket selves emptying?