Farage Kent Coast discuss

He's not a journalist, he does a radio phone in once a week.


It is very much a current affairs programme

journalist
/ˈdʒəːn(ə)lɪst/

noun
  1. a person who writes for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or prepares news to be broadcast.
Nope, most journalists, esp for the last 20 odd years train in journalism. NCTJ is an industry standard qualification (funnily enough, courses run in Bodds neck of the woods - Harlow) which most news outlets will insist on (or indeed a degree) before you're even given a job as a trainee. Journalists, as a norm, will spend years on the streets getting good at their jobs - they don't all walk into a radio show. Those rare ones who do that are pretty much going to be a presenter, not a journo and will know someone in the biz, rather than rely on skill.
He's simply got a gig on the radio once a week because he is who he is. That's far removed from those men and women who've worked flipping hard.

I could pick up my mobile phone and video myself spouting anything and stick it up on facebook/youtube - this doesn't make me a journo.
do we want all of our journalists out of the same jelly mould? what if a government set a test to who is allowed to report the news? they probably do that sort of thing in Russia..

I'm far from being a farage fanboy, there is a lot about him I dislike, but I do defend his right to free speech, and considering the size of his LBC audience for a currant affairs programme, I am thinking the police are over stepping their mark in trying to stop him reporting on an ongoing situation - is someone high up trying to suppress the news?
 
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It is very much a current affairs programme

journalist
/ˈdʒəːn(ə)lɪst/

noun
  1. a person who writes for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or prepares news to be broadcast.

do we want all of our journalists out of the same jelly mould? what if a government set a test to who is allowed to report the news? they probably do that sort of thing in Russia..

I'm far from being a farage fanboy, there is a lot about him I dislike, but I do defend his right to free speech, and considering the size of his LBC audience for a currant affairs programme, I am thinking the police are over stepping their mark in trying to stop him reporting on an ongoing situation - is someone high up trying to suppress the news?
I've had a few surgeries in my time, so I think I now should qualify as a doctor because I've got an opinion about it. Is that ok? I mean, I know that traditionally I'm not a surgeon and I've had no training but... :)
 
Nope, most journalists, esp for the last 20 odd years train in journalism. NCTJ is an industry standard qualification (funnily enough, courses run in Bodds neck of the woods - Harlow) which most news outlets will insist on (or indeed a degree) before you're even given a job as a trainee. Journalists, as a norm, will spend years on the streets getting good at their jobs - they don't all walk into a radio show. Those rare ones who do that are pretty much going to be a presenter, not a journo and will know someone in the biz, rather than rely on skill.
He's simply got a gig on the radio once a week because he is who he is. That's far removed from those men and women who've worked flipping hard.

I could pick up my mobile phone and video myself spouting anything and stick it up on facebook/youtube - this doesn't make me a journo.

My brother in law did a day release course in Wales 45 years ago whilst working as a journo for the local rag, he'd leave in the middle of the night to get there and back in the same day, he had a young baby at the time which was why he had to leave University, and earned less than £10 a week. After ten years at the local rag he did about 15 years for the Press Agency initially on general before spending a long period in the House of Commons (he's taken me there just a couple of times). Since then he's been Assistant Political Editor or Political Editor for at least 3 Daily's rated in the top ten and has won several awards.
I see him a few times a year, we're not politically aligned so to speak but respect each others views. He's interviewed 'Nige' a couple of times and ended up ****ed on both occasions.
He did mention that the 'persona of the bloke in a pub' who people like to ridicule as false is absolutely true, it's the way he is, the funny thing is he acknowledges is that since then, every Politician craves to be photographed with a pint in their hand.

Anyway, bottom line, no degree, basic training, and reached the very top of the game, been on telly a few times, been threatening to retire for a few years now.
PS:
The last time he took me to the HOC Maggie was PM, Ted Heath was on the back benches and Ian Paisley was making a lot of noise in the background, then he took me to a few Fleet Street pubs that had upstairs rooms, frequented by journos who ate no food whatsoever and drank only guinness, it's a strange place.
 
My brother in law did a day release course in Wales 45 years ago whilst working as a journo for the local rag, he'd leave in the middle of the night to get there and back in the same day, he had a young baby at the time which was why he had to leave University, and earned less than £10 a week. After ten years at the local rag he did about 15 years for the Press Agency initially on general before spending a long period in the House of Commons (he's taken me there just a couple of times). Since then he's been Assistant Political Editor or Political Editor for at least 3 Daily's rated in the top ten and has won several awards.
I see him a few times a year, we're not politically aligned so to speak but respect each others views. He's interviewed 'Nige' a couple of times and ended up ****ed on both occasions.
He did mention that the 'persona of the bloke in a pub' who people like to ridicule as false is absolutely true, it's the way he is, the funny thing is he acknowledges is that since then, every Politician craves to be photographed with a pint in their hand.

Anyway, bottom line, no degree, basic training, and reached the very top of the game, been on telly a few times, been threatening to retire for a few years now.
PS:
The last time he took me to the HOC Maggie was PM, Ted Heath was on the back benches and Ian Paisley was making a lot of noise in the background, then he took me to a few Fleet Street pubs that had upstairs rooms, frequented by journos who ate no food whatsoever and drank only guinness, it's a strange place.
I did say the last 20 years or so, how things now are - not 45 years as for your brother in law. He also worked on the local rag for 10 years, trained then a further 15 at PA which would've been his long slog, the same slog that most journo's go through. So he's done all the things that Farage hasn't done - Farage isn't a journo, your brother in law is. *shrug*

I've been to the Fleet Street pubs too with journos. No, never ever food! I think the journos who drink there now are dwindling.
 
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I did say the last 20 years or so, how things now are - not 45 years as for your brother in law. He also worked on the local rag for 10 years, trained then a further 15 at PA which would've been his long slog, the same slog that most journo's go through. So he's done all the things that Farage hasn't done - Farage isn't a journo, your brother in law is. *shrug*

I've been to the Fleet Street pubs too with journos. No, never ever food! I think the journos who drink there now are dwindling.

I'll tell you what though, Nige aside, I could write a book on some of his stories and how he got them. I won't though, I'd be shot.
 
It was a complete joke. He went there to prove they were coming in drovers and stood on an empty beach with no evidence of people arriving. He even made up a story of how they were carrying their boats off the beach. Nobody has found a pile of boats.

Glad to hear the police nicked him, shows they are still out there protecting us.
 
It was a complete joke. He went there to prove they were coming in drovers and stood on an empty beach with no evidence of people arriving. He even made up a story of how they were carrying their boats off the beach. Nobody has found a pile of boats.

Glad to hear the police nicked him, shows they are still out there protecting us.

Remarkably like the Labour MP who went to Luton airport to mockingly welcome in the droves of Romanian immigrants, only two or three were filmed arriving. Needless to say the cameras did not attend the arrival of the hundreds of thousands that followed.

Glad to hear the police nicked him, shows they are still out there protecting us.

That's very interesting, I didn't know he'd been charged, what were the charges?
 
Glad to hear the police nicked him, shows they are still out there protecting us.
Ha, ha!
They're protecting us by wearing little or no PPE and by fining us at every opportunity for things that are not illegal or against the CV regulations. Because they think they are here to enforce Johnson's speech.....some senior officers have threatened to use stop and account and searches of shopping trolleys to make sure we are not buying "non-essential" goods (words that never appear in the CV regulations); we have the beginnings of a police state.
If you think that's protection, then we're in big trouble.
 
It is very much a current affairs programme

journalist
/ˈdʒəːn(ə)lɪst/

noun
  1. a person who writes for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or prepares news to be broadcast.

do we want all of our journalists out of the same jelly mould? what if a government set a test to who is allowed to report the news? they probably do that sort of thing in Russia..

I'm far from being a farage fanboy, there is a lot about him I dislike, but I do defend his right to free speech, and considering the size of his LBC audience for a currant affairs programme, I am thinking the police are over stepping their mark in trying to stop him reporting on an ongoing situation - is someone high up trying to suppress the news?
He prepares his news from a broadcasting center. He wasn't going to a particular event, he drove, presumably a long distance he always strikes me as a Chilterns type, to have a picnic on a beach.
 
He should be able to use the journalist card. Rightly or wrongly (wrongly IMO) all journalists are exempt from lockdown. That includes weak magazine TV and radio programs as well as the Kate Aide kind.

I did hear from one on the inside that police are using ANPR to issue warnings automatically. They are also tacking Covid breach on to all charge sheets. e.g. attempted burglary is not a valid reason to break lockdown.
 
He should be able to use the journalist card. Rightly or wrongly (wrongly IMO) all journalists are exempt from lockdown. That includes weak magazine TV and radio programs as well as the Kate Aide kind.
Assuming he has a card. See previous comments.
I did hear from one on the inside that police are using ANPR to issue warnings automatically. They are also tacking Covid breach on to all charge sheets. e.g. attempted burglary is not a valid reason to break lockdown.
But they've got to travel to their place of work. Burglary isn't something you can do over Skype.
 
Needless to say the cameras did not attend the arrival of the hundreds of thousands that followed.
Probably because they didn't arrive in hundreds of thousands..


He should be able to use the journalist card. Rightly or wrongly (wrongly IMO) all journalists are exempt from lockdown. That includes weak magazine TV and radio programs as well as the Kate Aide kind.
He's not a journalist! He may be a part-time presenter on a radio station but he's not a journo.
For a start, journalists are supposed to be impartial.... he's certainly not that, not even remotely.

He can only get a journo card from either his place of work or from the NUJ.
 
some senior officers have threatened to use stop and account and searches of shopping trolleys to make sure we are not buying "non-essential" goods (words that never appear in the CV regulations); we have the beginnings of a police state.


.... and the government told them to do one, weeks ago. Hardly the beginnings of a police state. Just a few idiot rozzers, including some senior ones.
 
He's not a journalist! He may be a part-time presenter on a radio station but he's not a journo.
For a start, journalists are supposed to be impartial.... he's certainly not that, not even remotely.

He can only get a journo card from either his place of work or from the NUJ.
well that rules the beeb and groinyard out then.
 
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