Fruit and veg ‘will run out’ unless Britain charters planes to fly in farm workers from Europe

[Bodd]

It's that sort of deliberate ignorance that's just disapointing.

So you've not moved on yet?

 

[Vinty]

To expand on my response, you don't seem to know what you're talking about. Race is a fractal concept, at every level there are more lower level subdivisions. At a completely crude 'white'/'black'/'asian' level you might be the same race as a Romanian, but that's so crude a measure it's pointless and it doesn't work. But if you then hop down a level to Anglo Saxon, Romanic or Slavic, you quickly see that Romanians are a different race than the UK. Even the 'white British' option on the census is distinct from the Romanian ethnic group.

As to culture, again it's a fractal concept. But assuming you're born and bred in the UK then you're probably a member of the same culture as any other born and bred Brit who happens to be an idle layabout. There are differences, Cornwall and Dorset with their Scone wars as an obvious example. But if you found an idle layabout in your town you're probably going to share much of what can be described as culture.

Class is probably the more hot button part, but you can't choose what class you were born into your Highness. Still, when it's the simplest way to identify differences then I'm not a fan of being overly politically correct. It probably is a class effect you're describing.

Throughout I'm conflating Ethnicity and Race, because it is also too bloody confusing and detailed.

A lot of people confuse Romanian with Roma Gypsy, Roma Gypsies are a distinct ethnic group whose ethnic origins have been traced to India.
When people refer to Romanians they don't know that the people they are referring to are actually Roma Gypsies.

 

[IT Minion]

A lot of people confuse Romanian with Roma Gypsy, Roma Gypsies are a distinct ethnic group whose ethnic origins have been traced to India.
When people refer to Romanians they don't know that the people they are referring to are actually Roma Gypsies.

Or vice versa. Iirc Roma actually get a lot of racism in Romania, which must add insult to insult.

 

[Mottie]

 

[ellal]

There go again - talking about next year but using the word ‘we'. Shouldn’t you be saying "where will you be flying people from for next years picking season"? After all, your youngest would have long had their exam results by then (you do know they are not taking them now, don’t you) and you and your lot will be well gone from these shores won’t you? You will no longer be part of the 'we' when referring to the U.K. by then. When did you say you had your flights booked for - I'll diarise it as I don’t want you to go without having the opportunity to say goodbye to you.



No, I don’t 'identify' with Romanians because whilst I’m the same race as them, I’m not from the same culture as them - just like I’m not from the same culture as home-bred thieving, benefit scrounging, white British scum.

You do appear to have several generalised 'prejudice' issues.

Probably why you inevitably resort to goading tactics when they are exposed yet again!

 

[Mottie]

You do appear to have several generalised 'prejudice' issues. Probably why you inevitably resort to goading tactics when they are exposed yet again!

I’m confused. Since when has asking someone to clarify a statement they have made been classed as niggling or goading?

Okay, you don’t want to say. Let’s pretend your youngest has exams to take unlike any other student in the U.K. and I know school finishes in late July so shall I get my farewell card ready for early August? September? Later?

 

[ellal]

I’m confused. Since when has asking someone to clarify a statement they have made been classed as niggling or goading?

Okay, you don’t want to say. Let’s pretend your youngest has exams to take unlike any other student in the U.K. and I know school finishes in late July so shall I get my farewell card ready for early August? September? Later?

Oh dear mottie.

You wouldn't understand 'clarification' even if it gave you a slap in your 'caucasian' face!

But back to the topic, what a difference a few months makes...

Even the Daily Fail has changed it's tune from vilification to gratitude.

Romanians to the rescue

"First plane carrying 150 'critically important' Romanian fruit and veg pickers joining 'land army' battling to save the UK's harvest lands at Stansted"

Should we be worried if they have actually come to 'pick a pocket or two'?

 

[Bodd]

You wouldn't understand 'clarification' even if it gave you a slap in your 'caucasian' face!

How racist is that. I'm deeply offended for Mottie..

 

[sxturbo]

Was listening to the news today, and apparently there have been thousands of people applying for picking jobs as they have found themselves ideally suited to this work as they have just lost there jobs in the entertainment industries (festivals etc), however they are complaining they have not received any response from the agencies or farmers etc.

However one agency said that they offered 600 jobs and only 90 people accepted the offer

 

[transam]

Dare say the Romanians will be packing there
Fixtures and fittings removal tool kits

Probably the first thing they pack Into there over sized suitcases

 

[ReganAndCarter]

A lot of people confuse Romanian with Roma Gypsy, Roma Gypsies are a distinct ethnic group whose ethnic origins have been traced to India.
When people refer to Romanians they don't know that the people they are referring to are actually Roma Gypsies.

Exactly. And they're the ones relieving people of their wallets. Need to avoid tarring the decent, caucasian majority of Romanians.

 

[fillyboy]

Was listening to the news today, and apparently there have been thousands of people applying for picking jobs as they have found themselves ideally suited to this work as they have just lost there jobs in the entertainment industries (festivals etc), however they are complaining they have not received any response from the agencies or farmers etc.

However one agency said that they offered 600 jobs and only 90 people accepted the offer

A woman on Radio 2 today (or yesterday) told how her daughter applied for one of these picking jobs and was told all the vacancies were filled.
The problem is, that's not a good story is it? veg rotting in the fields due to a lack of EU workers makes for far better reading.

 

[transam]

These farmers are after cheap labour

Fuelled by super markets wanting cheap fruit and veg

Fuelled by the custumer who wants things on the cheap

Etc etc

 

[Mottie]

How racist is that. I'm deeply offended for Mottie..

Don’t worry about it. It’s just deflection on Oopsies part to avoid answering the question that will show him up for the attention seeking liar that he is. As far as I’m concerned there’s nothing wrong in asking him to clarify his up yours post. It’s a bit like the ellalphant in the room.

 

[fillyboy]

It’s a bit like the ellalphant in the room.

I see what you did there.