G20 Demonstrations
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If it mean's clearing the obstruction for the forward movement of the police line then imo YES.
It's not 1960 any more where a bobby might have said "please sir could you move aside".
The thing is, he was most likely not treated any more harshly than plenty of others on that day. Things have kicked off because he died a few minutes later; however, the plod actions by themselves are unlikely to have been the reason for his demise.
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No I know...its what goes on at football matches all over the country on Saturday afternoons..this thime the TSG didnt get away with it.
Now he has had a 'suspected' heart attack
How long before he gets pensioned off on 'health grounds'
With the TSG it batons first questions after..they do this job because they enjoy the buzz, theres no other reason why they would (apart from the overtime)
He has had to hold his hands up because e got caught..nothing to do with conscience..but probably from his colleagues who refuse to take the wrap for him, he knew he had done wrong, did you notice how quick he made himself scarce?
The officers from the City of London Police didnt look too impressed when it happened either..they probably knew Tomlinson..ok the City of London police are about as much use as a chocolate fire guard, they look good for the tourists but thats about it...but it seems they have a better perception of right and wrong than the TSG
Who are not much different from the rent-a-riot clastafarians who also hide their faces when they are doing something wrong
Now he has had a 'suspected' heart attack
How long before he gets pensioned off on 'health grounds'
With the TSG it batons first questions after..they do this job because they enjoy the buzz, theres no other reason why they would (apart from the overtime)
He has had to hold his hands up because e got caught..nothing to do with conscience..but probably from his colleagues who refuse to take the wrap for him, he knew he had done wrong, did you notice how quick he made himself scarce?
The officers from the City of London Police didnt look too impressed when it happened either..they probably knew Tomlinson..ok the City of London police are about as much use as a chocolate fire guard, they look good for the tourists but thats about it...but it seems they have a better perception of right and wrong than the TSG
Who are not much different from the rent-a-riot clastafarians who also hide their faces when they are doing something wrong
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The trouble is, no one really knows - yet - what went on with him up to that point. It was, seemingly, an over-reaction by the OB, at that particular point in time, but given that he was goading them over an hour earlier, what else went on in the interim?
One thing that is clear is that this was no innocent bystander, head down heading for home, as was first suggested. Granted, plod have not covered themselves with glory on this occasion, though.
One thing that is clear is that this was no innocent bystander, head down heading for home, as was first suggested. Granted, plod have not covered themselves with glory on this occasion, though.
Ian Tomlinson died of an abdominal haemorrhage and not a heart attack, a second post-mortem has shown.
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=16155836
This throw's a different light on the matter.
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=16155836
This throw's a different light on the matter.
I wonder after these demos how many police end up on pensions with the medical additions because being caught on camera thumping some defenceless demonstrater is worth many thousands of pounds on a retirement package for them.
Why? How would a baton on the legs and a shove in the back lead to that? His history of being a p*ss-head would have no bearing on that, of course.
Next week, terminal cancer sufferer gets bopped on the head by an OB shield at a demo
Of course the fact that he fell on his abdomen after being pushed from behind would have no bearing on what caused the injury?...
He had his hands out.
If he was going to die from that he was not long for this world anyway.
That shove was not that hard. Ronaldo would probably have gone down, but most people wouldn't.
If he'd cracked him over the head with his baton and he dies of an internal head bleed, I could understand the furore, but not for what actually went on.
If he was going to die from that he was not long for this world anyway.
That shove was not that hard. Ronaldo would probably have gone down, but most people wouldn't.
If he'd cracked him over the head with his baton and he dies of an internal head bleed, I could understand the furore, but not for what actually went on.
Get real, he was a p*sshead, he was getting under their feet at least an hour beforehand, he got pushed out of the way and by an adverse combination of circumstances he pegged it. Sh*t happens, doesn't make it plod's fault.
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