But tobacco has no use so why not phase it out?
Good riddance tobacco!
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I don't think it does because derivatives of the above actually have a useful medicinal part to play.
Tobacco has no use.
C
calorific
Sporting activities are useful as they tend to increase health and longevity. High-risk sports should have high premiums attached which would mean that the burden on the state isn't any more than for a normal person going about doing normal things who happen to become ill.
Driving a car is more or less a necessity in the modern world which has been shaped by its development.
Tobacco has yet to prove itself to be of any worth whatsoever. As such, if you wish to partake in it, then fine. But don't burden the rest of us with it's aftermath.
Driving a car is more or less a necessity in the modern world which has been shaped by its development.
Tobacco has yet to prove itself to be of any worth whatsoever. As such, if you wish to partake in it, then fine. But don't burden the rest of us with it's aftermath.
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Me! I enjoy having a ciggie and a cuppa. So .. presumably I'm selfish and have no consideration for other people and cost the NHS needless expense.
However .. I'm trying to imagine this Utopia where smoking has been phased out. It will be .. no doubt about it. Look at opium, 200 years ago that wasn't illegal.
Australia is already considering introducing an ID scheme where anyone born after 2000 will NEVER EVER be able to buy tobacco.
I believe that will be the way all countries go and so I'm now pondering the benefits of an alternative Universe where everyone is healthy and all forms of self-abuse are curbed or eradicated...
1) Everyone will have an ID card.
2) Tobacco is a thing of the past.
3) All alcohol purchased could be credited and recorded to this ID card. Costing at least £2 per alcoholic unit to curb bingeing and alcoholism. (With zero tolerance regarding drink driving).
4) Three monthly Health checks to calculate BMI and anyone over 25 and straying into obesity is fined.
5) Whilst they're at it the goverments could introduce a Law, one car per household as there are more carcogenics in the atmosphere from traffic pollution than the heaviest chainsmoker could ever add.
Any other methods of self abuse ... ie. sunbathing and cancer can be added as the goverment think of them and desire more revenue.
Presumably this would take all the strain off the NHS.
Then it can focus on treating healthy people ... age-related disease .... more IVF ... cosmetic surgery ... sex changes ...
I would so love to be standing next to you if you ever said that to the victim of a drunk driver.
Not so. I use public transport or shanks pony.
Every 17 year old is brainwashed into thinking they should have one which is why we now see three or four car or more households.
If we're so concerned about kids health (in relation to tobacco) shouldn't it follow that we start to minimize their selfish lifestyles too for the generations after them?
Absolutely it should. My wife and i try our best.
P.s. there is a lot more to alcohol than simply getting drunk.
It is used widely in the medical business as well as fuel etc.
It also contains calories.
It is an excellent social binder drunk in moderation.
It was at one time deemed safer to drink beer than it was to consume the drinking water from Londons' water supply.
Those that abuse alcohol are no better than those that abuse drugs.
There is no use for tobacco so why not phase it out?
Hey noseall I'm not going to disagree with you ... for a change.
But it's not enough to 'try your best' .. smokers might have been trying their best to give up the habit and they've still been targeted.
If the anti-smoking lobby get their way (which they will) I shall be out there campaigning for a level playing field for all.
But I shan't rely on the individual to monitor his own 'safe level' ... I shall be joining every anti-drinking and anti-obese lobby there is.
I don't think I'll be the only smoker who will either.
Actually, I've been googling it. The cost to the NHS for drinking and obesity and all the indirect costs of traffic accidents, domestic violence and welfare benefits for the obeses' inability to work is shocking!
In the UK an estimated 60.8 per cent of adults and 31.1 per cent of children are overweight.
I'm in the minority again! I'm a thinny. (size 8/10)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/obesity.shtml
Some experts believe obesity is responsible for more ill health than smoking. Being significantly overweight is linked to a wide range of health problems, including:
•Diabetes
•Heart disease
•High blood pressure
•Arthritis
•Indigestion
•Gallstones
•Some cancers (eg, breast and prostate cancers)
•Snoring and sleep apnoea
•Stress, anxiety, and depression
•Infertility
But you wont want to hear all that. It's not about smoking.
There is no justifiable excuse for obesity so why not phase it out.
But it's not enough to 'try your best' .. smokers might have been trying their best to give up the habit and they've still been targeted.
If the anti-smoking lobby get their way (which they will) I shall be out there campaigning for a level playing field for all.
But I shan't rely on the individual to monitor his own 'safe level' ... I shall be joining every anti-drinking and anti-obese lobby there is.
I don't think I'll be the only smoker who will either.
Actually, I've been googling it. The cost to the NHS for drinking and obesity and all the indirect costs of traffic accidents, domestic violence and welfare benefits for the obeses' inability to work is shocking!
In the UK an estimated 60.8 per cent of adults and 31.1 per cent of children are overweight.
I'm in the minority again! I'm a thinny. (size 8/10)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/physical_health/conditions/obesity.shtml
Some experts believe obesity is responsible for more ill health than smoking. Being significantly overweight is linked to a wide range of health problems, including:
•Diabetes
•Heart disease
•High blood pressure
•Arthritis
•Indigestion
•Gallstones
•Some cancers (eg, breast and prostate cancers)
•Snoring and sleep apnoea
•Stress, anxiety, and depression
•Infertility
But you wont want to hear all that. It's not about smoking.
There is no justifiable excuse for obesity so why not phase it out.
C
calorific
As soon as you are born (and indeed quite possibly before), you are a potential drain on the NHS at some stage in the future.
Best thing is not to be born at all.
Best thing is not to be born at all.
Some people have private insurance and no need of the nhs.
The nhs is over run with over paid buerocrats and pen pushers.
So who's draining who?
Now you're getting what I'm saying.
None of us are perfect. In an ideal world we'd all be that health conscious we wouldn't do anything to jeopardize our health. But we do.
And once the goverment start regulating and legislating one group or another where will it all end?
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