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[Brightness]

You have completely changed you comment about the hours worked by your husband. People working for the Government don't carry their overtime over for 2 years!!

How have I changed my comment - he is contracted to 35 hours. However, the hours he actually works are far longer! Don't you understand the English language?

You seem to have taken this personally which is not what was meant.

Yes I did and if it wasn't meant that way then why did you make your previous comments...

So we will call that 3x15 and 3x12, thats 36 plus 45= 81 hours a week!!!!!!!!!!! I find it extremely hard to believe that any goverment worker does anything like that many hours. Irrespective of that, why does he deserve a pension? You say he earns 30K, if we can get a foreign worker to do it for 15K, we should sack your husband because he is too expensive. What do you reckon to that !!

Put everyone on an equal footing if your husband wants his job back he will have to be cheaper than Johnny Foreigner. Its called economics.

I personally think that foreign labour should be paid the same as British labour, otherwise we are taking a few steps back to slavery

 

[notb665]

Put everyone on an equal footing

Communist!

if your husband wants his job back he will have to be cheaper than Johnny Foreigner. Its called economics.

What if Mr. Brightness is better than Johnny?

 

[Brightness]

What if Mr. Brightness is better than Johnny?

Cheers notb665, he probably is bless him. He's had 17 years in his job now and is considered an expert in his field - only 4 of them in the UK apparently (his area manager told me that, not him). He is highly regarded and valued in his job, I just wish they'd pay him for the hours he works

 

[paulbrown]

Brightness wrote in reply to me at. Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:21 pm .

Excuse me but my hubby works for the govt. Whilst I'm not prepared to reveal what he does for a job I suppose you would class it as 'civil service'. He works from 6am until 6pm or 9pm every night and usually at least one day on the weekend too. He is quite hig up in his field and earns less than 30K a year.

and this.

Not all civil service workers sit behind desks and work a 30 hour week you know

Then on Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:46 pm you said.

OK so you don't believe me about the long hours he works? He is on a salary and gets no overtime pay - he has to take time in lieu. He is contracted to 35 hours a week.....

You have now said on Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:05 am.

How have I changed my comment - he is contracted to 35 hours. However, the hours he actually works are far longer! Don't you understand the English language?

I will not dwell on your rude and racist presumption about whether I understand the English language.

I will however point out that the above quotes are in the order you said them, I have included the times to help you.

Brightness by name not by nature it would seem.
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The main thrust of my point is that the vast majority of this PC and alleged racist garbage eminates from the public sector. This very sector is also largely unnaffected by this tosh. They have protected salaries and pensions paid for by the very people you expect to compete with cheap foreign labour.

I mention this sector also competing and you got on your high horse about your husband, you quoted his job, not me.I don't for one minute believe your husband works those hours but politely declined from saying the obvious.

Your are quite simply another NIMBY, F you Jack I'm, all right, this is just the reply I expected off someone like you. You expect others to see their wages fall but cry foul when someone suggests it happens to you.

I would also suggest that both you and BAS make up your minds what I stand for, because you called me a commie, he said BNP, in the same thread!!!!!!!!!

Probably not because most armchair communsits don't actually work do they?

It's pretty clear what Slogger wants, and please note I was talking about him, and people like him.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I will not dwell on your rude and racist presumption about whether I understand the English language.

Why was it racist? It's possible to be thick and uncomprehending no matter what race you are.

I will however point out that the above quotes are in the order you said them, I have included the times to help you.

Don't see what the problem is - all 4 of those statements are consistent.

Your are quite simply another NIMBY, F you Jack I'm, all right, this is just the reply I expected off someone like you. You expect others to see their wages fall but cry foul when someone suggests it happens to you.

So I take it then that you have never, in your entire life, bought anything made or produced abroad, or gone on holiday to somewhere with a low cost of living?

I would also suggest that both you and BAS make up your minds what I stand for, because you called me a commie, he said BNP, in the same thread!!!!!!!!!

I'm sure which you are.

 

[Slogger]

well i think the civil servants jobs should all go to india

sack the lot of them and dont hand out any pensions

me thinks we would see a massive change in view points on how the uk works

not one of the limpy leftys has said anything to back up the uk born workforce why is that ??? are they all asians and bringing there cousins/aunties/uncles in ?>

 

[ban-all-sheds]

me thinks we would see a massive change in view points on how the uk works

Slogger - you are a spectacularly stupid thug. In the circumstances you describe, with no police, no teachers, no doctors, no nurses, no firemen, nobody to empty the bins, nobody to keep the streetlights running, no army, how well do you think the UK would work, and how long before you fell victim to a someone even more violent than you?

Still - at least your favourite group of people would be happy wouldn't they, with no immigration officers. You'd be their hero.

 

[hermes]

Still - at least your favourite group of people would be happy wouldn't they, with no immigration officers. You'd be their hero.

 

[Brightness]

I will not dwell on your rude and racist presumption about whether I understand the English language.

I will however point out that the above quotes are in the order you said them, I have included the times to help you.

Brightness by name not by nature it would seem.

Very Bright by nature actually, a lot brighter than you too matey, by the looks of things. How is it racist to ask whether you have a full comprehension of the English language? I'm not English but it is my first language and I have a full comprehension of it. Not all English people have a full and comprehensive understanding of their own language. If I put a piece of paper in front of you with 20 words from the English dictionary written on it, I'd bet you wouldn't know the meanings of at least ten of them
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The main thrust of my point is that the vast majority of this PC and alleged racist garbage eminates from the public sector. This very sector is also largely unnaffected by this tosh. They have protected salaries and pensions paid for by the very people you expect to compete with cheap foreign labour.

I do not expect anyone to compete with cheap labour, foreign or otherwise. I believe that if you do a job well, then you should be 'rewarded' with the same pay no matter what your race or skin colour. How the hell is that racist?

I mention this sector also competing and you got on your high horse about your husband, you quoted his job, not me.I don't for one minute believe your husband works those hours but politely declined from saying the obvious..

Well you obviously don't live in the real world then do you?

Your are quite simply another NIMBY, F you Jack I'm, all right, this is just the reply I expected off someone like you. You expect others to see their wages fall but cry foul when someone suggests it happens to you.

Get real and read my previous statement. No mater whether you are man, woman, black, white, yellow, pink or purple. if you are doing the same job to the same standard and with the same qualifications to do that job then you should be paid the same. I do not agree with 'cheap foreign labour' as you put it.

I would also suggest that both you and BAS make up your minds what I stand for, because you called me a commie, he said BNP, in the same thread!!!!!!!!!

And I stand by what I said. I think you are a Communist. Is your surname a Russian one by any chance?

Why was it racist? It's possible to be thick and uncomprehending no matter what race you are.

Here, here.

Don't see what the problem is - all 4 of those statements are consistent.

He obviously doesn't fully comprehend the English language

Your are quite simply another NIMBY, F you Jack I'm, all right, this is just the reply I expected off someone like you. You expect others to see their wages fall but cry foul when someone suggests it happens to you.

So I take it then that you have never, in your entire life, bought anything made or produced abroad, or gone on holiday to somewhere with a low cost of living?

He's probably one of those louts taht the Spanish Police look out for B-A-S!

well i think the civil servants jobs should all go to india

sack the lot of them and dont hand out any pensions

me thinks we would see a massive change in view points on how the uk works

not one of the limpy leftys has said anything to back up the uk born workforce why is that ??? are they all asians and bringing there cousins/aunties/uncles in ?>

Oh OK then Slogger, so you want a completely lawless state do you? No police, no prisons, no emergency services, no refuse collections, no hospitals, no schools..... need I go on? No thought as much, you obviously haven't got a clue either

Oh and btw, I am far from being a limp lefty as you put it - I wouldn't vote labour if my life depended on it

And no, seeing as you ask. I'm not an Asian and I haven't needed to bring any relations in - they were all born here.

Just one question. My eldest son was born in Germany. Would you like to see him go back there or is he OK to work here as he's lived most of his life here and has a British birth certificate?

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Edited for a spelling mistake

 

[Slogger]

ok how would we have a lawless society ? cos in your assumption of the cheaper bloke would get the job

we could have immigrants be our policemen ( all muslims cos they are peace loving people ahhh)

open the door to them all see how far it gets us


and get off your high horse you english teacher you


your hubby may be good but there will be loads of people that could do his job they might not be as good but they would do it for half the cost and that is what is driving the uk companys now CASH we are losing so many jobs to JOHNNY FOREIGNER tooo many



wake up those of you that think its ok for foreign labour to come here and undercut our born here workforce wtf are u on


as for your son his birth is simply a geographical mistake he is british ( UNLESS HE HAS A DUAL PASSPORT )


gl on the english lessons

 

[Brightness]

ok how would we have a lawless society ? cos in your assumption of the cheaper bloke would get the job

You obviously don't understand English. I said I do not expect anyone to compete with cheap labour, foreign or otherwise. I believe that if you do a job well, then you should be 'rewarded' with the same pay no matter what your race or skin colour.

we could have immigrants be our policemen ( all muslims cos they are peace loving people ahhh)

Oh for goodness sakes Slogger, there is good and bad in every nationality. Not every Muslim is going to go and blow up a train, the same as not every Englishman is a football thug

wake up those of you that think its ok for foreign labour to come here and undercut our born here workforce wtf are u on

I repeat I do not expect anyone to compete with cheap labour, foreign or otherwise. I believe that if you do a job well, then you should be 'rewarded' with the same pay no matter what your race or skin colour. for the third time. You obviously don't understand the English language very well, do you?

Oh and for the record I am not an English teacher

as for your son his birth is simply a geographical mistake he is british ( UNLESS HE HAS A DUAL PASSPORT )

It was not a geographical mistake, we were living there at the time. His Dad was serving in the BAOR & no he doesn't have a dual passport as I didn't want him being called up for German National Service.

gl on the english lessons

Could you repeat that in English please?

 

[paulbrown]

Brightness wrote,

Very Bright by nature actually, a lot brighter than you too matey, by the looks of things. How is it racist to ask whether you have a full comprehension of the English language? I'm not English but it is my first language and I have a full comprehension of it. Not all English people have a full and comprehensive understanding of their own language. If I put a piece of paper in front of you with 20 words from the English dictionary written on it, I'd bet you wouldn't know the meanings of at least ten of them

You may be right, but I know what these words mean.

Liar. You on here.
Mug. Your husband, for working all hours for nothing, but more so for putting up with your offensive manner.
Thick. You for saying I'm a communist, even though you can't spell it.

No wonder your husband stays out, poor man is probably in the pub getting bladdered ready to face your kite.

 

[Richardp]

Hey! Paul is this normal behaviour for you to be speaking to a girl like this? maybe you should go and have a stiff drink and settle down abit and then come back with your apologies be a man I know it gets heated sometimes but this is way out of order.

 

[paulbrown]

Bas wrote,

It's possible to be thick and uncomprehending no matter what race you are.

I know that, I have witnessed it on many occasions.

Don't see what the problem is - all 4 of those statements are consistent.

I only listed 3 quotes not 4.

So I take it then that you have never, in your entire life, bought anything made or produced abroad, or gone on holiday to somewhere with a low cost of living?

Yes, off course I buy goods from abroad, why wouldn't I? we weren't talking about imports though, we were talking about products made in the UK by people from abroad, which is not the same.

I am very well travelled including expensive/third world and many countries in between. I enjoy meeting foreign people and sampling their culture. It would be such a shame to see the differences disappear which would ultimately happen if we all became"multi cultural" Why would you want us all to be the same and lose these differences? The world would be so bland if that ever happened.

I'm sure which you are.

You think your sure, but your wrong in your guess.
I have never voted BNP/NF or for any similar extreme right wing or nationalist parties. You are right I am also not a communist. I have also never voted for Lab/New Lab/New Tory, I have on occasion voted Tory but more often voted Liberal (in its many names) Not because I am very Liberal, but because I see PR as the only true democracy. This also why I agree with the likes of Slogger being allowed to voice his opinion, I am not saying I agree with that opinion, only that he should be allowed to express it.

Ah yes - of course - should have realised you'd spring to his defence, what with him being a fascist, racist British Nazi Party supporter like yourself.

Where did I spring to his defence? show me where I supported the parties you mention.

Was I right, do you work for a public body?

 

[Brightness]

You may be right, but I know what these words mean.

Maybe you do but if i picked 20 out of the dictionary you probably wouldn't

Liar. You on here.

No actually, I don't tell lies. As I said before my husband is contracted to 35 hours a week but does many more - and no he doesn't particularly like working the long hours...

Mug. Your husband, for working all hours for nothing, but more so for putting up with your offensive manner.

I'll tell him what you said, I'm sure he's heard worse and from bigger tw@ts than you. I'm actually not that offensive a person really, unlike you. My hubby doesn't think so anyway.

Thick. You for saying I'm a communist, even though you can't spell it.

OK I mis-spelled a word - you've mis-spelled loads. Thick? No I don't think so, I actually have a higher than average IQ Also you do appear to have extremely communist views.

No wonder your husband stays out, poor man is probably in the pub getting bladdered ready to face your kite.

LMAO He'd rather be at home any day of the week but unlike some people he believes in working hard to support his family.

Would you like to insult me any further or have you had your entertainment for the evening? As they say 'Little things please little minds...'