Hot Air

[Notch7]

Do we actually think that the establishment (no, not the nobs in parliament, the ones who pull the levers behind the curtains) would have allowed Brexit to happen if it was ultimately destructive for the UK

Of course.

Brexit was only ever a vehicle for disaster capitalists, hedge fund managers, billionaires living tax havens, disaster capitalists, hedge fund managers, Tufton Street ghouls......because they could make money out of the Deregulation opportunities and chaos.

Boris Johnson only pushed brexit because he was able to use it as a way to become PM


Do you actually think the wealthy care about the general Public?

 

[denso13]

That evidence would be the Maastrich and Lisbon treaties wouldn't it?

No, federal refers to a common/central government like the USA. The EU is different.

 

[Notch7]

Financial independence must be a massive factor. Controlling your own IR is vital to an economy.
I think this is the main factor for brexit tbh.
We pulled out of the ERM because of it

As an EU member the UK has contr of 99% of its finances

We were an EU member, not in the Eurozone and more opt outs than any other member, we were not constrained financially

 

[Notch7]

That evidence would be the Maastrich and Lisbon treaties wouldn't it?

No

 

[BlueLoo]

Of course.

Brexit was only ever a vehicle for disaster capitalists, hedge fund managers, billionaires living tax havens, disaster capitalists, hedge fund managers, Tufton Street ghouls......because they could make money out of the Deregulation opportunities and chaos.

Boris Johnson only pushed brexit because he was able to use it as a way to become PM


Do you actually think the wealthy care about the general Public?

Yes, it is what keeps them rich.

 

[BlueLoo]

As an EU member the UK has contr of 99% of its finances

We were an EU member, not in the Eurozone and more opt outs than any other member, we were not constrained financially

Wrong.

the interest rate tool, along with its own currency is the financial main armaments.
Really, not an insignificant thing to surrender to a federation.

 

[Mottie]

I don't know what his products are like now, but the ones I bought in the mid 90's were completely unreliable, maybe a one off. He is described as an engineer but he always struck me as a brilliant salesman.

We have a Dyson V10 cordless vacuum, a Dyson bladeless fan and Mrs Mottie has a Dyson supersonic hair drier. All bloody wonderful.

 

[Mottie]

Because he wanted cheap labour.

And access to cheap labour from the EU is why most bosses didn’t want Brexit. Pure and simple.

 

[Mottie]

If the UK was "so f#cking good", why did he move at all?

A little thing called business. He moved before the referendum was even a gleam in Cameron’s eye.

 

[BlueLoo]

We have a Dyson V10 cordless vacuum, a Dyson bladeless fan and Mrs Mottie has a Dyson supersonic hair drier. All bloody wonderful.

The hoovers are ok, but don't seem to like hard work.
After spending 20 years buying dyson hoovers, we switched to Shark. Impressed so far but then again, its shiny and new...

 

[Brigadier]

A little thing called business. He moved before the referendum was even a gleam in Cameron’s eye.

Which paints the UK in an even worse light.

 

[Mottie]

Which paints the UK in an even worse light.

Not really. It's an international business. What major items do you have in your house that were actually made in the U.K.? Mobile phone? PC? Tablet? Vacuum cleaner? Cooker? Microwave? Boiler? Car?

 

[Mottie]

The hoovers are ok, but don't seem to like hard work.
After spending 20 years buying dyson hoovers, we switched to Shark. Impressed so far but then again, its shiny and new...

Vacuum. Vacuum. Hoover is a brand.

 

[BlueLoo]

It's a hoover.

Vacuum is what is inside a plumbers head.

 

[Brigadier]

Not really. It's an international business. What major electrical items do you have in your house that were actually made in the U.K.?

Which just goes to show that we are not an island (metaphorically).