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[Freddie]

..........Britain has never even been anywhere close to what Japan did ............

What did they and others do in North America to the natives?
What did they do to the natives in Australia?

To name but 2.

taking slaves from africa
bombing dresden

to name 2 more

Well you were on a winner untill you mentioned the bombing of Dresden---this one is nothing but pure pure loony left stuff and i have to hear the excuses for this one, but if you have more of similar especially this week of all weeks then i am sure there are a lot of people who want to hear this me included. PLEASE TELL MORE PETEWOOD??

On slaves from Africa i have heard something of it but admit i know nothing of it and what we did to the natives of America and Australia really really confused on that one except maybe with the agreement of the Aussie goverment we displaced natives from an area where we exploded a bomb who were in co hoots on the development.

 

[kendor]

Might be of help regarding the bombing of dresden:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWdresden.htm

 

[Freddie]

Might be of help regarding the bombing of dresden:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWdresden.htm[/QUOTE]

Yeah thanks Kendor.

 

[kendor]

Might be of help regarding the bombing of dresden:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWdresden.htm[/QUOTE]

Yeah thanks Kendor i know all about the bombing of Dresden as i research WW1 +WW2 because of my family and also the false properganda rubbish that is spread for various reasons, as far as i am concerned bomber Harris as he was known was just one of the many men who managed to win the war.

And before the loony left start It was the Germans who decided to bomb civillian targets in Britain first and tried and succeeded to do similar to British cities and it was only their construction that the same results never happened

I worked on the "Bomber Harris" BBC Drama years ago.
You mantion false propaganda but how do you know it is false? where's your evidence to prove otherwise? it would be interesting to see this as it will help to redress the balance and go someway to justifying the "harm done" in your eyes.

 

[JulieL]

Everyones entitled to their views arnt they, and theres those that believe this country lets in too many, of which Im one, and theres those who disagree.

I have been reading this post with interest.

Quite frankly, IMHO we should be able to express an opinion without being accused of rascism

As a nurse I have dealt with many people from different nationalities - however, like it or not this Country cannot continue to cope with the influx of immigrants - this statement is not rascist it is factual!!

Again, I have seen (and am seeing more frequently) immigrants here who are prepared to work which is fantastic and will help our economy etc, etc...........but I can honestly say (in relation to what I see) that this is far outweighed by the ones claiming from the state and who actually have stated that they don't want to work.

I even know several girls who are quite able to work but choose not to and who are trying to get pregnant here on purpose in order to claim more benefits..........how do I know this........because they have told me!!

Also, did you know that true facts re the state of heterosexual HIV infection in this Country are not able to be reported correctly due to namby pamby PC bull***t? - What is the World coming to when true factual information cannot be reported correctly due to people being worried about being accused of being rascist!!!

 

[oilman]

Quite frankly, IMHO we should be able to express an opinion without being accused of rascism

As a nurse I have dealt with many people from different nationalities - however, like it or not this Country cannot continue to cope with the influx of immigrants - this statement is not rascist it is factual!!
.................

There's a difference between factual statements and referring to all muslims as "scum" or for that matter any other ethnic group. There are plenty of indigenous "scum" too.

 

[kendor]

JulieL would you be offended by sexist remarks such that are derogatory to women and their abilities to contribute to society? similiarly there are those minorities that do need protection from certain remarks, that's not to say that factual information should be witheld but that it should be made absolutely clear that this information is in fact factually sound before releasing it, maybe it is this uncertainty that puts off those that wish to report such findings the fact that they are worried that they could be sued for giving out false or derogatory information instead of info that they can back up.

 

[JulieL]

JulieL would you be offended by sexist remarks such that are derogatory to women and their abilities to contribute to society? similiarly there are those minorities that do need protection from certain remarks, that's not to say that factual information should be witheld but that it should be made absolutely clear that this information is in fact factually sound before releasing it, maybe it is this uncertainty that puts off those that wish to report such findings the fact that they are worried that they could be sued for giving out false or derogatory information instead of info that they can back up.

Don't get me wrong Kendor, I know a lot of immigrants who are productive members of our society........just trying to make a point that people should be able to express there opinions , thats all!
No kendor, the facts are evidence based...............I would not have made such a claim if they hadn't been!
Of course you are right and I agree wholeheartedly when you say that there are some people who need protection - but I can only give a perspective from my own personal experience.......which is what I have done - I do accept though that there are some people who have had no personal experience of immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers (and any true related issues!) who jump on the rascism bandwagon without having any any personal experiences

 

[Freddie]

Your right.

 

[Freddie]

Dont worry Julie it is the usual way certain people dont like your view to brand you a racist biggot in the hope that you will shut up.

If i feel the way i do because of the actions of some of those people then tough and i am allowed to say it but one man here seems to think i can only think his way or be a racist biggot or so he says.

 

[JulieL]

Quite frankly, IMHO we should be able to express an opinion without being accused of rascism

As a nurse I have dealt with many people from different nationalities - however, like it or not this Country cannot continue to cope with the influx of immigrants - this statement is not rascist it is factual!!
.................

There's a difference between factual statements and referring to all muslims as "scum" or for that matter any other ethnic group. There are plenty of indigenous "scum" too.

Excuse me - Where have I referred to muslims or other ethnic groups as being "scum"?

 

[oilman]

YOU haven't and I didn't say YOU did, but go through the seven + pages of this thread. If it's not there I know it's elsewhere on this forum stated by those posting on this thread.

 

[petewood]

Well you were on a winner untill you mentioned the bombing of Dresden---this one is nothing but pure pure loony left stuff and i have to hear the excuses for this one, but if you have more of similar especially this week of all weeks then i am sure there are a lot of people who want to hear this me included. PLEASE TELL MORE PETEWOOD??
.

Ok then, reading Kendor's link re-enforced my view that Harris was only one step up from a war criminal and he should have been booted out of the RAF before he had a chance to do any harm.

 

[Freddie]

Well you were on a winner untill you mentioned the bombing of Dresden---this one is nothing but pure pure loony left stuff and i have to hear the excuses for this one, but if you have more of similar especially this week of all weeks then i am sure there are a lot of people who want to hear this me included. PLEASE TELL MORE PETEWOOD??
.

Ok then, reading Kendor's link re-enforced my view that Harris was only one step up from a war criminal and he should have been booted out of the RAF before he had a chance to do any harm.

Your mad !!!

Suppose on your thinking every Spitfire pilot should be court marshalled actually killing a German airman when they could have just shot the plane up if they had taken much more care.

Now you are loony left !

 

[oilman]

I've just scanned that link. Are you saying Freddie, that most of the information in that link is deceiving?