Immigration and the tories

[AdamW]

so yes Hitler's Nazi party was legitimate so if we could go back in time should we do anything to stop that legitimate party from committing the horrors of ww2 ?

Why is it that any time someone says anything vaguely to the right of centre, someone will come along and attempt to draw analogies with Hitler? I mean seriously, he was a vegetarian too. Would you regard "Hitler was a vegetarian" as a good argument against vegetarianism?! Hey, he played a major part in the formation of VW. Does that mean anyone who drives a VAG therefore has similar beliefs to Hitler?

This does of course work both ways... Richard, am I correct in thinking that on a traditional one-dimensional political scale you hang to the left of centre. Does that mean you supports the actions and policies of that famous left-winger Stalin? He killed 10s of millions of people. He actually killed more people than the whole of WW1, WW2 including the holocaust, and all the smaller wars of the 20th century, combined. Left-wingers, all alike. Anyone who votes left of centre must think starving Ukraine is a good idea.

As it happens, the Nazi party were legitimate leaders WHEN THEY CAME TO POWER. What they did was absolutely despicable, and nowadays would be illegal under current international law. We can always look back and decide we should have done things differently.

And I am certain that if we don't put a reign on the torrent, then when we are even more crowded, with high unemployment, a forgotten culture and haemorrhaging money out of every orifice to pay for this "good will", we will look back and wonder why the hell we didn't do anything.

 

[kendor]

Lol Pip you been on the old Scrumpy again?

 

[pipme]

Reality as I found it down the years working with all sorts and persuasions .... King Canute failed with the tide --- haven't seen much success on the immo front either --

Do some of you bu##ers good to get a skinful of apple juice down you.

But not in each others company by the looks of things

 

[kendor]

don't get me wrong Pip i'm not against having a drink with D&J anytime it's just i don't think they'd let him/her/them in, don't want to encourage under age drinking do we

 

[masona]

Can you please leave D&J alone, I cannot see where this is leading to .

As for Michael Howard, I don't know if I like him yet BUT at least he has the guts to stand up unlike others. It is not racist just common sense. Michael Howard isn't anti-immigration, he wants to stop illegal & bogus asylum seekers because it's uneconomical. Tony Blairs know it's the truth but dares say anything for fearing upsetting voters in May general election. Tony Blairs doesn't want to go to war with Iran for the same reason when it suit them but at least Michael Howard is coming up with plans which work very well in Australia, so what wrong with that, we cannot carry on as we are.

 

[Richardp]

Richard, am I correct in thinking that on a traditional one-dimensional political scale you hang to the left of centre

Adam ask Dave he'll tell you I'm a "do gooder" which is better than being a "do badder" isnt it? I think your all wonderful people.

 

[david and julie]

kendor the more you write the more pathetic you become.

Being silly is one thing, making yourself look it is another. You lost this debate when you started getting offensive and called me stupid, everybody else can see that except you(and possibly your sidekick).

You have still not said where I was facist or racist though have you? We can all see you are avoiding answers and comments about drinks etc' don't hide this. You said I mentioned the hook once which I also dispute.
Kendor why not just put up or shut up.

You used the same tactics other day with Ban and he made you look stupid too.

 

[david and julie]

thankyou masona for your sensible and truthful comments, I feel they will fall on deaf ears though.

Lets see kendor come up with the goods as I asked then we can judge him.

I notice richardp as avoided Adams question too.

 

[kendor]

D&J do behave yourself and gimme a break!

 

[masona]

Yes I noticed the duck & diving We're not that stupid

 

[kendor]

Richardp , not only has D&J become offensive and called me pathetic now but has resorted to calling you my sidekick now whose pathetic now! grow up D&J and if you havn't got anything else to say apart from being abusive then lip it!

 

[Richardp]

I notice richardp as avoided Adams question too.

Oh! what was the question again?

 

[kendor]

Decent questions deserve an answer, not the rantings of lunatics hence no reply to your pathetic(your word) ramblings.

 

[pipme]

don't get me wrong Pip i'm not against having a drink with D&J anytime it's just i don't think they'd let him/her/them in, don't want to encourage under age drinking do we

Oi ! Less of the 'we' !!!
Someone has to fight for what our children should, rightly, expect from this country.... Free education, not billions to smash Iraq ..... Not people 'no spika da engless' being housed at my expense ---

 

[david and julie]

It was this one.

Richard, am I correct in thinking that on a traditional one-dimensional political scale you hang to the left of centre

Adam ask Dave he'll tell you I'm a "do gooder" which is better than being a "do badder" isnt it? I think your all wonderful people.