Immigration at a record level...

[Tigercubrider]

Do we have spare housing for all these extra people? How old are these 'students' with wives and kids? But the most important question is, do they all go home or try to linger in this country after their studies? Seems like poss another way in.

Student Visas with family are generally Post Graduate ones. They pay 2/3 times the fees that home students do, encouraged by Government to subsidise the cost of degrees to home students. They are now (rightly or wrongly) part of the education financial model. Universities would go bust without them.

They are also generally the cream of the crop of their countries. And extremely wealthy by their countries standards, often by ours. Pretty much every European country /USA / other countries are desperate to get more International students.

It’s called Soft Power. Far easier to speak to a foreign minister or CEO if you went to uni with him.

All International students have to prove that they can support their partner and child while studying (no work for the partner normally and only 18 hours per week for the student. The student has to prove evidence of at least £1200 a month income for the course living expenses As a single person.

The accommodation is normally sub divided houses owned by the University.

Post Graduation, they can apply for up to two year visas to work in the UK, or go home.
They aren’t applying for jobs as plumbers, or brickies. They are scientists, Medics, Engineers.

 

[noseall]

No, its the EU.

Are you saying that France and Germany should be expected to take many more refugees, immigrants, asylum, seekers etc than the UK? Or that the UK should be expected to take none?

 

[gant]

Well they could get on par with Britain in not rejecting so many first time asylum claims.
26% Britain, Germany and France over 50% could be as high 70% in France case.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Well they could get on par with Britain in not rejecting so many first time asylum claims.
26% Britain, Germany and France over 50% could be as high 70% in France case.

Rejecting claims too harshly just leads to more appeals

 

[noseall]

Well they could get on par with Britain in not rejecting so many first time asylum claims.
26% Britain, Germany and France over 50% could be as high 70% in France case.

Lol. Seeing as those countries have double the volume that the UK has, your figures look a bit pale.

 

[gant]

Rejecting claims too harshly just leads to more appeals

You just wave them onto soft touch Britain apparently.

 

[charliegolf]

Student Visas with family are generally Post Graduate ones. They pay 2/3 times the fees that home students do, encouraged by Government to subsidise the cost of degrees to home students. They are now (rightly or wrongly) part of the education financial model. Universities would go bust without them.

They are also generally the cream of the crop of their countries. And extremely wealthy by their countries standards, often by ours. Pretty much every European country /USA / other countries are desperate to get more International students.

It’s called Soft Power. Far easier to speak to a foreign minister or CEO if you went to uni with him.

All International students have to prove that they can support their partner and child while studying (no work for the partner normally and only 18 hours per week for the student. The student has to prove evidence of at least £1200 a month income for the course living expenses As a single person.

The accommodation is normally sub divided houses owned by the University.

Post Graduation, they can apply for up to two year visas to work in the UK, or go home.
They aren’t applying for jobs as plumbers, or brickies. They are scientists, Medics, Engineers.

Public warning of a ban. Offence 1? Spouting common sense. Offence 2? Offering facts to back up your unwanted common sense. Cut it out!

What I am not able to back up, is a claim (gov) that overseas students are bringing £42bn a year...

Ex Tory immigration minister...

“Jo Johnson, the former immigration minister, said that………The vast bulk of our international students are master’s students doing nine to 12-month courses. The overwhelming majority of students leave at the end of their studies and go home.

“They are huge assets to our university system for well established reasons – they cross-subsidise research, they make it possible for universities to put on courses that otherwise wouldn’t be offered at all, thereby increasing choice for domestic students. They are not in tension with domestic students.”

There you go.

 

[SirGalahad]

As long as this Government uses slogans to make sure the Motties of this world will vote for them - nothing will change for the better - the Tories get to set the agenda and the Mail get to enforce it.

We do not invest in our workforce - we make bringing up children a less and less enviable option because of the costs - so where are our future workers going to come from? Abroad it seems as the Government prefers this option because it lets them get away without investing and they get the workforce skills they want.

In the same breath they want to stop immigration and people coming in from abroad they will make bringing up kids even more expensive and when people ask for a pay rise they get branded as socialists.

It is perverse but the Motties et al can't get enough of this stupidity. It will continue until the whole thing collapses as no one is willing to point it the issue because if they do they will torn to shreds by the Mail et al.

 

[fillyboy]

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when people ask for a pay rise they get branded as socialists.

Odd use of the word 'branded', as if being a socialist is a bad thing. Some of my best friends are socialists and proud of it. I used to be one myself.

 

[SirGalahad]

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Odd use of the word 'branded', as if being a socialist is a bad thing. Some of my best friends are socialists and proud of it. I used to be one myself.

Search results for query: socialist

www.diynot.com

Much like 'socialists' in this country.

Deutsche Bahn have agreed to pay cuts, they know where their breads buttered. Haway with you you socialist moron.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenAndPleasant/comments/xxgyhn

This seems to be Notch's information source.

The largest UK left discussion board for news, politics and memes. This is a leftist space first and foremost, although rational debate is welcome. Please be sure to read the subreddit rules. Filled with socialists, communists, uk labour party members, anarchists and generally disgruntled types. Chat socialism and the left.

Silly Filly the Liz Truss of this forum closely followed by the Nadine Dorries of the forum aka Mottie for his genuflection to Bojo.

 

[fillyboy]

Hey, I just said they were my best friends, that doesn.t mean I don't think they're ****'s.

 

[Justin Passing]

Asylum claimers weren't a huge proportion https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac....ars-of-strong-growth-reaching-606000-in-2022/

It's sobering to consider the in and out figures separately, but we don't have a full analysis. 1.2million came in, most of whom aren't accounted for.
Add up student families, Ukranians, asylum seekers, care workers, and there's a lot left.
So who's leaving? Half a mill of them.
More qualified people? Doctors? Drug and chip designers?