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[Himaginn]

Himmy, I don't think compulsory verification was required until you came along.
It was and is a forum - really just like a chat in a pub.

If someone writes something you regard as wrong then just comment "I don't think that's correct" and give evidence if you want to - or not.
That will raise doubts in the minds of anyone reading both and if they are interested they can look it up.

If you merely disagree with someone's opinion then all you can do is disagree as it is their opinion right or wrong.



If you are that upset by written untruths, then I think it would be more beneficial to society if you crusaded against them (untruths) in newspapers; here - it doesn't really matter.

I disagree with you. You disagree with me. That's fine. On this occasion it's a failure to agree on whether someone's opinion should be supportable, etc.
But If I say something like, " USA has gone to war again in South America!" You'd expect some sort of evidence or supporting information to justify my opinion.
I might have meant, 'gone to war on drug growers', 'gone to war on tax evaders' or some other type of war.
But you wouldn't just be satisfied with, "no they haven't" and you would quite rightly expect me to provide some supporting evidence to justify my opinion. Or at least an explanation of exactly what I meant.
But all we get from FO is, "I'm right and I won't provide any supporting evidence to justify my assertions."
In my opinion, a simple, "you're wrong" is insufficient. Otherwise we'd have pages and pages of childish: "Yes!", "No!", "I'm right!", "No you're not, I am!".
That might satisfy you, but it doesn't satisfy me.
It would be utterly pointless and none of us would be any the wiser, more learned or benefited in any way.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

In 1968, I was well and alive, and heard on the news that worlds first biggest ever 10,000mile long rally or Marathon was going to take place, setting off from Crystal Palace in London, and it would terminate in Australia Sydney, The route would take around 100 participants through so many different countries, (UK, France, Germany Austria , Italy, Greece Turkey, and Through Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and through to India and board a ship at Bombay, all cars would then land at Perth harbour in Western Australia, from there they would head on the longest stretch of some gruesome terrain all the way to Sydney.

I remember that day very well, and when I also learnt that a Hillman Hunter was also taking part in it, I still remember those drivers names so well, they were my heros, and names are embedded in my head like a rock,. Andrew Cowan, the leading driver, Brian Coyle, Colin Malkin, all Scots, driving my most favourite cat of all time, I took a sigh of relief, and made a wish against all odds and prayed God please make that Hillman Win this grilling rally.

Bianchi was driving a Citroen D21, he was leading most of the way, and Hillman was the next best car in place, it was a test of driver as well as machine, and sadly for Citroen, its driver let her down, and ended up head on crash with a local mini, that left Andrew cowan greatest victory of all time, I was over the moon well before Apollo crew landed there.

(I heard, Iranians were so please too when they learnt a Hillman was running in the marathon, they set up special tent for the crew of Hunter drivers, they took a hot water shower and were given comfortable beds to sleep overnight, and in the morning the Iranians (Muslims) served them a proper English breakfast of eggs sausage and beacon! Those were the days when all borders were war free, now you will be lucky to go past Dover or Calais !

(Please note I can provide supporting evidence!) Check London- sydney marathon 1968, you tube.)

 

[Foxtrot Oscar]

Mike, now you have annoyed me. I'm pretty sure that I had a photograph of that Hunter in an old book but now I can't find what I have done with the book and it is driving me nuts..

If Mr Himaginn would like photographic evidence of my nuts, then I could post it here but it may put normal folk off their dinners.

 

[Himaginn]

Mike, now you have annoyed me. I'm pretty sure that I had a photograph of that Hunter in an old book but now I can't find what I have done with the book and it is driving me nuts..

Now come on. You're really trying it on now. You can't blame a loss of a book on you being nuts!

 

[JohnD]

Bianchi was driving a Citroen D21, he was leading most of the way, and Hillman was the next best car in place, it was a test of driver as well as machine, and sadly for Citroen, its driver let her down, and ended up head on crash with a local mini

I heard that the DS was taken out of the race by a drunk-driving Oz smashing into it. Is that not true?

 

[tony1851]

photographic evidence of my nuts, then I could post it here

Whitworth or BSF? anything as long as they're not metric.

 

[Himaginn]

If Mr Himaginn would like photographic evidence of my nuts, then I could post it here but it may put normal folk off their dinners.

You're talking *******s again.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

photographic evidence of my nuts, then I could post it here

Whitworth or BSF? anything as long as they're not metric.

Would 4BA do or do you need biggies, i can go is 0BA.

 

[Mikefromlondon]

Bianchi was driving a Citroen D21, he was leading most of the way, and Hillman was the next best car in place, it was a test of driver as well as machine, and sadly for Citroen, its driver let her down, and ended up head on crash with a local mini

I heard that the DS was taken out of the race by a drunk-driving Oz smashing into it. Is that not true?

Not sure if he had one too many.

 

[Himaginn]

Himmy, I don't think compulsory verification was required until you came along.
It was and is a forum - really just like a chat in a pub.

If someone writes something you regard as wrong then just comment "I don't think that's correct" and give evidence if you want to - or not.
That will raise doubts in the minds of anyone reading both and if they are interested they can look it up.

If you merely disagree with someone's opinion then all you can do is disagree as it is their opinion right or wrong.



If you are that upset by written untruths, then I think it would be more beneficial to society if you crusaded against them (untruths) in newspapers; here - it doesn't really matter.

For someone who has been repeatedly saying that no-one knows what will happen. All of sudden you're happy and will argue for unsupportable assertions to be allowed.
Now let me think. What has the public been overwhelmingly been requesting during the run-up to this referendum?
Has it been for facts? Or has it been for unsupported, unsupportable allegations, assertions and innuendo?

I don't seem to remember.



Ahh, now I remember!. They want facts! They don't want unsupported, unsupportable allegations, assertions and innuendo!

What do you think they should have?

 

[Foxtrot Oscar]

We count ourselves most fortunate that you know all the facts.. They don't seem to be changing anyone's mind though

 

[Mikefromlondon]

If we leave EU, and pretend it is business as usual, except bar all migrant workers from europe, and send those who came here for benefits sake, leave those who are hard working and paying taxes, and helping build our housing and other structures, oh yes, I can only think without them our construction industry would grind to a complete halt, and suffer tremendously,

In Britain our Education system is mostly orientated or focused towards churning out academics, computer experts, very few go into becoming plumbers, electricians, and other construction workers, but the rate at which we are expanding is outstripping local source of construction workers, yesterday I took an underground train to St Pauls Station at 6 am, as I had an appointment at St Bartholomew's Hospital, carriages were already packed even at that time of the morning, I had to stand, I looked around almost about 80% seemed Europeans construction workers going to work, most carrying their tool bags, others might have been cleaners, hotel staff, etc, no white collar workers with suite and tie were seen at all, office workers don't start commuting to about 7am to 8am for a nice cushy job of 9 to 5.

Just my observation at 6am. Leaving europe think again. Who will fix my toilet in future?

 

[Himaginn]

We count ourselves most fortunate that you know all the facts.. They don't seem to be changing anyone's mind though

Then why do you keep spouting your utter nonsense?

 

[blightymam]

We count ourselves most fortunate that you know all the facts.. They don't seem to be changing anyone's mind though

Then why do you keep spouting your utter nonsense?

Right backatchya.

 

[Himaginn]

We count ourselves most fortunate that you know all the facts.. They don't seem to be changing anyone's mind though

Then why do you keep spouting your utter nonsense?

Right backatchya.

My 'nonsense' is counter argument, supported by much authentic and official evidence. Whereas FO's nonsense is unsupported myth and lies.

Why do you support FO's myth and lies, yet find a problem with counter argument substantiated by evidence?
Don't bother answering. The answer is obvious.