Is Jewish and/or Zionism a Racist Ideology?

[Roy Bloom]

My answer would be No

It's a discussion. not a poll. If i wanted it to be a poll, I would have done that.

 

[Roy Bloom]

I don’t see the OP starting threads about Muslims/Islamists and asking similar Islamophobic questions to these antisemitic threads.

Smells like himmy hates Jews.

There's already plenty of those opinions. I'm offering an alernative viewpoint, one that hasn't been discussed yet.

Smells like motorbiking doesn't like discussion if he disagrees wit the basic premise, so he resorts to dishonest accusations.
You fail to understand, because one does not support Arsenal, does not mean one must support Chelsea.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Looks like you've made your one point Roy and it's time to STFU or get booted again.

It's a discussion forum. If you don't want to participate in any particular thread. there's no obligation to do so. There's not even any obligation to read the posts.
Do you have any influence in whether I am banned?
If not your threat is worthless.

As far as I'm concerned Racism includes colourism and creedism and if anyone were in doubt, religionism.
They all exist, it's stupid to deny it's everywhere for all reasons, from common sense to outight madness.

Many Jews are racist as hell, as are many moslems And christians for that matter.
I say jews and moslems and christians behave differently and in general, sure. So I'm a racist because I've noticed?

Religion is the cause or excuse for much of the current trouble, but if you took the religion out people would still fight between them and us groups.
There won't be peace until the religious stop thinking they're special. That will never happen. That's their life script, it makes them who they are.

And no-one is denying that racism is everywhere. But because something is so endemic does not mean that we shouldn't combat it every time it rears its ugly head.
But not all proponents of any religion are racist.
No-one is accusing of being racist because you're aware of racism.
Education can eleminate racism and promote tolerance.

Roy if you're vehement in your opinion pro one side or another, you need to grow up.

Another one that thinks if you don't support Chelsea, you must support Arsenal.

There's nothing partisan about being vehement about wanting to stop the sensless killing.

 

[gant]

The sort to start wars they know they will never have to fight.

Mike Tyson put it succinctly.
"Everybody has a plan till they get punched in the face"
Himmy getting his kicks from being antagonistic on here is alright at the end of a keyboard, he'd soon STFU if confronted by those he disparages on here.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Mike Tyson put it succinctly.
"Everybody has a plan till they get punched in the face"
Himmy getting his kicks from being antagonistic on here is alright at the end of a keyboard, he'd soon STFU if confronted by those he disparages on here.

You mean that those who are racist on here, would also be racist face-to-face with their targets of racism?

 

[gant]

You mean that those who are racist on here, would also be racist face-to-face with their targets of racism?

No not at all those, that want a forum which isn't littered with threads about racism would like to see if you would put your money where your mouth is if you turned up to a discussion not held behind a keyboard.

 

[gant]

Point proven all pi*s and wind.
The point is, is it healthy for a site to continually have to play hungry hippos week after week with you where they ban you from a thread only for you to pop up again with a thread on the same mantra.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Point proven all pi*s and wind.

What point have you proven?

The point is, is it healthy for a site to continually have to play hungry hippos week after week with you where they ban you from a thread only for you to pop up again with a thread on the same mantra.

The point is, I'm invariably locked out of a thread for far less than you, and others post, week after week, playing the abusive hippo.
No sooner have I been locked out of one thread, when you pop up in another thread to continue your abuse and dishonest accusations, in order to turn the thread into one about me. You've done it again in this thread. You do it every time. All your posts are ad hominem attacks, never addressing the issue.

 

[Notch7]

There's already plenty of those opinions. I'm offering an alernative viewpoint

No you arent

You fail to understand, because one does not support Arsenal, does not mean one must support Chelsea

You clearly support Hamas

 

[Roy Bloom]

No you arent

Yes, I am.

You clearly support Hamas

Another one who thinks that because I have a poor opinion of Chelsea, and criticise their performance, I must support Arsenal.
You clealry resort to dishonest accusations because I don't agree with your opinion.

 

[StephenStephen]

I'd respectfully suggest a couple of things or three:

-Can we keep in mind and heart the suffering of those in Israel and Gaza.

-How does our, to put it bluntly, bickering, on this forum help those suffering?

-Are there other ways we may more quietly and effectively be helpful?

Good wishes to all, Stephen

 

[Justin Passing]

And no-one is denying that racism is everywhere. But because something is so endemic does not mean that we shouldn't combat it every time it rears its ugly head.
But not all proponents of any religion are racist.
No-one is accusing of being racist because you're aware of racism.
Education can eleminate racism and promote tolerance.

Racism is in my view normal, natural, coded into all of us, for reasons of protection and survival. Nuances are reinforced by experience.
I think all proponents of one religion probably are racist, but specifically from prejudice.
I'm disparaging to proponents of any religion, they're all deluded nutters believing in hocus pocus.
Education does not eliminate racism whatsoever.
Speak to a tradesman, you'll find they're very educated about which races - however defined - will try to get a bit more off the price, or nit-pick the job, etc. Tradesmen often pre-load the job so they can have an easier life when the payment squeeze comes, as they've learned it will from some. You can try telling the tradesman that doing that is racist, and the tradesman is likely to tell you to DO ONE, because you don't know what you're talking about.

It matters whether one's view is really a different view, or simply one of many. If the latter but stated as the former, then it looks like it's coming from a self-important and bigoted jerk. Going on on and on about the same thing - the same view, doesn't add validity or weight to it. It just makes the individual look rather juvenile.
Vehemently supporting a football team, as was mentioned, would be consistent with that way of thinking, and as above, a sign of immaturity and lazy thinking.

 

[Justin Passing]

You offering to meet me for a fight?
Are you claiming to be the people's forum champion in this fight that you want?
You really know how to hit rock bottom.

An exceptionally stupid post, imho.

 

[THFC]

It's a discussion. not a poll. If i wanted it to be a poll, I would have done that.

You asked a question and I answered it. Enough said

 

[Roy Bloom]

Racism is in my view normal, natural, coded into all of us, for reasons of protection and survival. Nuances are reinforced by experience.

Nonsense. It's a taught prejudice, taught by our parents and peers.
Yes, reinforced by personal experience but through the prism of bigotry.
Bigotry is so deeply internalised that the actors are unconcsious of its effect on our perception. Hence the concept of unconcsious bias

Socialization is a process through which an individual learns and internalizes their society's norms, values, beliefs, and customs. Every culture demarcates desirable and undesirable behaviour in different social contexts. Socialization shapes an individual's personality, behaviour, and social interactions

Meaning and Theory of Socialization

Introduction As a great Greek philosopher said, Man is a social being. We human beings cannot live in a vacuum.

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Hence the concept of unconcsious bias:

Unconscious (or implicit) bias is a term that describes the associations we hold, outside our conscious awareness and control. Unconscious bias affects everyone. Unconscious bias is triggered by our brain automatically making quick judgments and assessments.

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Your theory is a poor excuse for bigotry.

I think all proponents of one religion probably are racist, but specifically from prejudice.

Racism is prejudice.
And to suggets that all proponents of religion are inherently racist is also nonsense. Would you consider, say Archbishop Welby, to be racist?
Unless you meant: "all proponents of one (particualr) religion probably are racist" which is an explicitly racist staement.

I'm disparaging to proponents of any religion, they're all deluded nutters believing in hocus pocus.

But by the same token, I would hesitantly agree that some religious practioners are nutters:

• Asked whether he can speak "in tongues", Welby answered, "Oh yes, it's just a routine part of spiritual discipline — you choose to speak and you speak a language that you don’t know. It just comes."

Education does not eliminate racism whatsoever.

I haven't commissioned a poll, but I highly susopect that racism is a curse of the poorly educated.
In fact tolerance in totality is a curse of the poorly educated.
For sure there will be some highly educated people who are deeply biased about all sorts of things. They've been taught such things from an ealy age. They probably believe their prejudices are a real view of life, like religion. There are some highly educated people who believe they can speak a language, they've never heard, nor learnt, nor one that anyone else understands.

As for your comments about bargaining over price being an excuse for racism, or a defining charater of 'race'. I think you're off your proverbial rocker.

I won't bother responding to the rest of your post, it's obviously a tirade of partisan criticism.