Is this a joke?

[Mottie]

Sometimes, people should not be given the option of pleading not guilty.

Daniel Khalife pleads not guilty to Wandsworth prison escape

The 21-year-old former soldier is charged with escaping from Wandsworth prison on 6 September.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[footprints]

'Cos the van driver kidnapped me inet!

 

[Ihavenojob]

Was he on remand when he escaped? Perhaps he feels he was falsely held.

 

[Mottie]

he escaped

You’ve answered your own question.

 

[Ihavenojob]

You’ve answered your own question.

No, I haven't. If he was on remand, why not try him for that offence before trying him for escaping? If he's found not guilty they can drop the escape trial, thus saving me and you a few quid. If he's found guilty, then try him.

 

[Mottie]

No, I haven't.

You have. He escaped from being on remand. You’re not allowed to. Same as you’re not allowed to escape from a police car or a police cell or any type of custody even if you are later found not guilty of the original offence. He committed an offence of escaping from the remand centre and he must be tried for that. Pleading 'not guilty' to that when it’s bloody obvious he is guilty is a pîss take.

 

[crystal ball]

You have. He escaped from being on remand. You’re not allowed to. Same as you’re not allowed to escape from a police car or a police cell or any type of custody even if you are later found not guilty of the original offence. He committed an offence of escaping from the remand centre and he must be tried for that. Pleading 'not guilty' to that when it’s bloody obvious he is guilty is a pîss take.

Who decides whether the accused can plead not guilty, sounds like one of trannies kangaroo courts

 

[Mottie]

Who decides whether the accused can plead not guilty, sounds like one of trannies kangaroo courts

Come on. Facts decide. The bloke escaped from custody by strapping himself to a lorry. He wasn’t kidnapped. He was on the run for days. There is absolutely no doubt he escaped. He's guilty. Don’t even need a trial for that. How on earth can he plead otherwise?

 

[Munroast]

You have. He escaped from being on remand. You’re not allowed to. Same as you’re not allowed to escape from a police car or a police cell or any type of custody even if you are later found not guilty of the original offence. He committed an offence of escaping from the remand centre and he must be tried for that. Pleading 'not guilty' to that when it’s bloody obvious he is guilty is a pîss take.

if it is that obvious then his plea should only take a few minutes to knock on the head. we all have to have the right to say not guilty.

 

[crystal ball]

Come on. Facts decide. The bloke escaped from custody by strapping himself to a lorry. He wasn’t kidnapped. He was on the run for days. There is absolutely no doubt he escaped. He's guilty. Don’t even need a trial for that. How on earth can he plead otherwise?

Who decides though? Trial is a right in the UK and should stay that way, even that goes wrong all too often, so introducing an arbitrary guilty verdict is a slippery slope

 

[ellal]

Who decides though? Trial is a right in the UK and should stay that way, even that goes wrong all too often, so introducing an arbitrary guilty verdict is a slippery slope

Who knows where that would lead...

Thugs wielding scaffold poles on a street near you?

 

[JP_]

He was on the run for days.

Not true, he was cycling when he was caught.

 

[gant]

Well if he stole my bike and came off and broke his leg, I'd say don't come running to me.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Not true, he was cycling when he was caught.

He was then Recycled back into Jail.

 

[Vinty]

Years ago before the troubles began in N.I., this bloke my father new used to go to jail for one week a year rather than pay maintenance to his wife.

Back then security was very lax , because this bloke was only doing a week in the jail ,the screws would let him do odd jobs around the jail.

On the Saturday before his release,some of the screws sent him to the bookies down the road from the jail to put money on a horse they fancied, the screw who let him out the front gate was supposed to let him back in again when he got back from the bookies.

The bloke went to bookies and placed the bets ,he then decided to get a couple of pints of Guiness before going back to jail.
In the meantime the guard who was supposed to let him back into jail was called away ,the guard who replaced him didn't know what was going on.

When the bloke got back from the pub and banged on the prison gate to back in , the new guard told him to go away as visiting hours were over, the guard didn't believe him when he said he was actually a prisoner.
The bloke didn't want cause a fuss as he knew something was wrong.

So he said ,OK, if anyone is looking for me I am in the pub beside the bookies.
He went back to the pub, the guard then reported to the other guards what had happened at the gate.
The other screws then waited until the new guard went off duty and then they phoned the pub , by this time the bloke was steaming and had to be brought back to the jail in a taxi.
Needless to say the next time the bloke came back to do his week inside he wasn't allowed out.