Israel fires on UN peacekeepers

[ellal]

History

History tells me that on October the 7th a group of terrorists entered Isreal and slaughtered over. Thousand civilians

Beheading
Throats cut
Burnt alive
Raped and sexual assault

Hostages that were beaten as. They were dragged into Gaza

A population in Gaza that would have gladly lynched the hostages and cheered and celebrated if it happened

You can take yer history and shove it

And of course the murders of countless Palestians by israel over decades counts for nothing in your eyes...

Along with all those land grabbing extremists who have done similar things in Gaza and the West Bank over the years...

And don't forget the abuse of tens of thousands of Palestinian hostages in the jails of israel...

Do you not give a toss about Palestinians at all?

No wonder there is no chance of peace when there are apologists like you around who only look at one side of the problem!

 

[ellal]

It wasn’t a war crime

Germany was the aggressor, the U.K. was fighting for its very existence

Dresden was a a legitimate industrial target with a significant number of factories dedicated to the war effort, including chemical warfare

Oh and the Geneva convention prohibiting the specific targeting of civilians wasn't amended until 1948

You are talking b ollox

Only one small raid was targeted at an industrial area...

The most destructive fire bombing raids were targeted at the city centre...

And at the time the UK was not fighting for it's very existence...

It was 1945 FFS!

And as for the nuclear bombs in Japan...

Were they targeted at civilians or not?

So it was according to you ok to target civilians in the second world war due to it not being recognised as a war crime at the time...

6 million innocent jews amongst the 40 million innocent civilians killed might disagree with you...

If they could!

Of course israel appears not to have learnt the lessons from the past, and it has refused to join the international bodies overseeing war crimes!

 

[T&G]

Context

Is Hamas that dumb that they did not take into consideration as to what Israel’s response would be

They knew very well what would happen and did not give a s***

Hamas are responsible

They use there population as a weapon

Always have tis who they are tis what they do

That and public executions

Hamas / palistinians even there fellow Arabs don’t want them

Hence why Eygpt have shut the border

To put it in context, the Hamas actions on 7th October 2023 was the response to Israeli actions over many years.
Israel has been forcibly imprisoning Palestinians in Gaza for many years. They have been shooting at children for throwing stones, even after the children had stopped and were leaving. they have killed unarmed civilians for protesting. They have killed journalists for doing their work.
The list goes on.
As Devon Bullet said recently, military action against an oppressor is permitted and legal self-defence. It is not limited to action purely on the territory being occupied. military action on the Occupiers territory is recognised as legal.
Yes, some civilians were killed on 7th October. Just like Israel excuses the civilians killed in Gaza, Lebanon and Syria, "Collateral damage".
I am not justifying nor excusing the killing of civilians, neither by Hamas, Hezbollah, nor Israel. But to classify only one side's killing of civilians as Collateral damage, while accusing the other side of intentionally and wilfully killing of civilians as terrorism is totally lopsided.

To label the actions of Hamas on 7th October as terrorism, is exactly like Devon Bullet explained: were France to invade England, UK would immediately label them as terrorists, and vice-versa France would label the defenders as "terroristes". It's just a word that is applied to justify the inhumanity, killing of civilians, and radicalising of the indigenous population.

 

[T&G]

So you're saying the Israelis had it coming.

I am more than capable of explaining myself. Thank you for your suggestion, but I will ignore it.

 

[T&G]

You are talking b ollox

Only one small raid was targeted at an industrial area...

The most destructive fire bombing raids were targeted at the city centre...

And at the time the UK was not fighting for it's very existence...

It was 1945 FFS!

And as for the nuclear bombs in Japan...

Were they targeted at civilians or not?

So it was according to you ok to target civilians in the second world war due to it not being recognised as a war crime at the time...

6 million innocent jews amongst the 40 million innocent civilians killed might disagree with you...

If they could!

Of course israel appears not to have learnt the lessons from the past, and it has refused to join the international bodies overseeing war crimes!

Sadly the victors get to mete out the justice.

 

[fillyboy]

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[T&G]

(Pointless abuse removed)

I am more than capable of explaining myself. Thank you for your suggestion, but I will ignore it.

Again, thanks for your suggestion, and again I will ignore it.

 

[Londoner2]

Poor state of Israel. Being attacked from all sides who want to wipe them from the face of the earth. At least they can stand up to the bullying Arabs. Good on them, I say.

Yeah, a poorly armed group with no tanks, fighter jets, air defences, advanced missiles, etc want to wipe them from the face of the earth.

 

[Londoner2]

Its standard bully boy tactics from the IDF, tried n tested against civilians when they want to land grab.

 

[Vinty]

Oh and the Geneva convention prohibiting the specific targeting of civilians wasn't amended until 1948

So the mass kiling of civilians wasn't a crime?
So why all the fuss about the Holocaust.

Bomber command had a specific policy of targeting civilians, it was called dehousing.
The aim was to carpet bomb civilian areas close to industrial sites.
By mass destruction of housing and the people living in them, it was believed that workers morale and industrial production would be adversely affected.

 

[Vinty]

Sadly the victors get to mete out the justice.

As a rule of thumb.
Only the losers in war commit war crimes.

 

[transam]

And of course the murders of countless Palestians by israel over decades counts for nothing in your eyes...

Along with all those land grabbing extremists who have done similar things in Gaza and the West Bank over the years...

And don't forget the abuse of tens of thousands of Palestinian hostages in the jails of israel...

Do you not give a toss about Palestinians at all?

No wonder there is no chance of peace when there are apologists like you around who only look at one side of the problem!

Not correct

I have stated a good while back in a post(s) that afai am concerned the illegal settlers should be asked to leave the West Bank and if they don’t comply than Isreal should throw em out with maximum force

Armed force

Most of em come across as fruit cakes imho

As for me not giving a toss about Palistinians

I feel sorry for any woman that have to live in a country run by mad mullers / Islamic religious fanatics

 

[Vinty]

So Er when is Mr Starmer going to call out genocide ???

He won't call out anything.
If he does, he will be the former Prime minister of the UK.
No more free trousers and tickets to pop concerts, he has to much to lose.

 

[Notch7]

So the mass kiling of civilians wasn't a crime?
So why all the fuss about the Holocaust.

Bomber command had a specific policy of targeting civilians, it was called dehousing.
The aim was to carpet bomb civilian areas close to industrial sites.
By mass destruction of housing and the people living in them, it was believed that workers morale and industrial production would be adversely affected.

Your post is utterly stupid

The U.K. we’re fighting the Germans who were responsible for the holocaust

And Germany had been fighting the UK years trying to destroy it.

Bomber command actually did try targeting factories but back then all they had was dumb bombs being dropped from aircraft flying high to avoid anti aircraft defences


Anybody trying to claim Dresden was genocide is utterly fick

 

[Vinty]

The U.K. we’re fighting the Germans who were responsible for the holocaust

You said that targeting civilians for death wasn't a crime before 1948.
You said it, not me.
So according to your definition of a war crime, killing Jews or any other non combatants wasn't a crime.
So why were leading Nazis put on trial.