Israel under attack

[denso13]

Its called freedom of speech and expression thank you, whats good tor the goose is good for the gander.

It's called appeasing racism and terrorism.

 

[Roy Bloom]

How about the stated aim of Hamas to eradicate Jews? And you wonder why Israel do what they do?

Give your head a shake.

According to your Israeli propaganda.

What about the stated aims of Zionist to control the whole of the Levant?
And let us remember that the Israeli government is dominated by Zionists.

Give your own head a shake.

 

[denso13]

Israel has to annihilate Hamas,

Or be annihilated themselves. What a choice.

There is no other solution possible anymore. Only death.

Sadly, the way things stand, yes.

 

[Roy Bloom]

It's called appeasing racism and terrorism.

Since when has challenging government policy been called racism or terrorism?

That's a very slippery slope down which you are sliding.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Or be annihilated themselves. What a choice.

You are ignoring the thousands of Palestinians that live in Israel under an apartheid system, and the thousands of Israelis that have forcibly evicted Palestinians from their homes in the West Bank, and previously Gaza.
Palestinians don't do that to themselves, Israel does.

 

[THFC]

It's in London, quite a big one by all accounts and is more of interest than discussing what's going on in Palestine which can't be affected by what's said on here. The consequences could be quite devastating if it gets out of control.

No doubt some of them will desecrate our monuments like savages. Hopefully they'll be arrested if the Met get their priorities right.

It'll be interesting to see if the far right counter demonstrate against them. If so, it will probably be them who are 'kettled' into a corner

 

[denso13]

Truth hurts does it.

Yes.

What a barbaric organisation.

Doctrine of Hamas

www.wilsoncenter.org

 

[Roy Bloom]

Yes.

What a barbaric organisation.

Doctrine of Hamas

www.wilsoncenter.org

The Wilson Centre is a US think-tank.
As the US is a supporter of Israel killing 9,000 civilians in four weeks, it can hardly be considered as non-partisan.

Zionism represented only a minority of Jews,

Zionism | Definition, History, Examples, & Facts

Zionism, Jewish nationalist movement that originated in eastern and central Europe in the latter part of the 19th century that has had as its goal the creation and support of a Jewish national state in Palestine, the ancient homeland of the Jews. Learn more about the history of Zionism in this...

www.britannica.com

Yet Zionists currently dominate Israel government and politics.

Kippot come in all shapes and sizes, but the knitted kippah — the symbol of Religious Zionists — is everywhere in Israel. In the Supreme Court and the media, the government and the army, the top brass of the police and the Shin Bet.

https://www.thejc.com/judaism/all/the-integral-struggle-within-israels-new-ruling-elite-4ettJK29AEY6yVvq2Ig4ik

 

[denso13]

"This Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), clarifies its picture, reveals its identity, outlines its stand, explains its aims, speaks about its hopes, and calls for its support, adoption and joining its ranks. Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realised.".

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews. (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem)."

"The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. To do this requires the diffusion of Islamic consciousness among the masses, both on the regional, Arab and Islamic levels. It is necessary to instill the spirit of Jihad in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters."

"Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep.""

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

 

[Roy Bloom]

"This Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), clarifies its picture, reveals its identity, outlines its stand, explains its aims, speaks about its hopes, and calls for its support, adoption and joining its ranks. Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realised.".

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews. (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem)."

"The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised. To do this requires the diffusion of Islamic consciousness among the masses, both on the regional, Arab and Islamic levels. It is necessary to instill the spirit of Jihad in the heart of the nation so that they would confront the enemies and join the ranks of the fighters."

"Israel, Judaism and Jews challenge Islam and the Moslem people. "May the cowards never sleep.""

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

What a surprise!
Denso presents a US version of the Hamas charter, an out-of-date one at that.
This out-of-date US version is easily available on the internet, but try to access other areas ot that website, and you get this:

Denso has a history of providing dead links, and when asked for the details on how he accessed them, he fails to respond.
His silence is deafening.

 

[Roy Bloom]

From the Jewish Chronicle, claimed to be the wotld's oldest Jewish paper.
Dated two weeks ago.

Religious Zionists are everywhere, and this ubiquity is fostering within the community a sense of euphoria.

Meanwhile, on the far bank of the river that cuts through Israeli society, there is mounting anxiety over the increased prevalence of Religious Zionists in positions of power.

The columnist Yossi Klein provoked outrage when he wrote in Haaretz, the newspaper identified with the Israeli secular left: “The Religious Zionists are dangerous, more dangerous than Hezbollah, hit-and-run drivers, or girls with scissors.
"Arabs can be ‘neutralised’; Religious Zionists can’t. What do they want? To take over the country and cleanse it of Arabs. If you ask them, they’ll deny it. They know it’s premature to be so candid.

"But don’t believe their denials. Their religious nationalism is extreme nationalism wrapped in hypocritical fear of heaven. It percolates through the education system, grows stronger in the army, and even affects the Supreme Court. They’re already headed our way; in another moment they’ll be breaking down the door.”
The Religious Zionists’ newfound power, whether a blessing or a curse, is only part of the story. In reality, Israel’s “new ruling elite” is being heated from within and is quite close to the boiling point.

Beneath the surface of what looks like a community on the rise, a fierce religious and cultural battle is raging.

https://www.thejc.com/judaism/all/the-integral-struggle-within-israels-new-ruling-elite-4ettJK29AEY6yVvq2Ig4ik

 

[gant]

So what you going to do now with that nugget of information, use it like eye for an eye, which seems to be how you justify things. How civilized.

 

[Roy Bloom]

So what you going to do now with that nugget of information, use it like eye for an eye, which seems to be how you justify things. How civilized.

Which 'nugget of information' are you referring to?
I'm not psychic.

 

[gant]

The one you just posted from the Jewish chronicle, pillock.

 

[denso13]

The parent body of Hamas,

https://isgap.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/GenocidalAntisemitism-Markos-Zografos.pdf