'Jeremy to tax robots'

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more fake news & propaganda from JD

 

[Doggit]

Boeing brought the complaint under US law

And the really odd thing, is that Brigandier make components that Boeing doesn't, so the supposition is that they will soon start to.

 

[Judy in the sky]

You think, but you are not sure. You are showing your ignorance again.
A computer (motherboard) is (in general terms) a PCB with components added that serves the role as the central main board.
The PCB in heating programmers, etc, have limited purpose functions with little opportunity to add other components, other than what is added at manufacturing stage to process that limited function. Whereas you can add other components to a PCB in a computer, only because that is built into the PCB at manufacturing stage.

Wannabehimmyagianandagain. Just to clear things up (finally) A PCB is not a bloody computer. A central heating programmer, isn't a computer simply because it contains a PCB. Your washing machine (assuming you have one for Mrs Way-Har-Bee ) or the ones down the laundrette, contain perhaps two or even three PCB's,,, but it's neither a CH programmer or a bloody computer. You sir are the one showing your ignorance.
My original post concerning the taxation of industrial robots still stands. As they are computer based, then some future government may well see fit to put a special tax on computers/ computerised equipment. (including your Commodore 64)
You'd make a great MP , the amount of useless filibustering you indulge in. I bet you were that one unwanted child. Hated by his parents and the world. Awww poor you.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Wannabehimmyagianandagain. Just to clear things up (finally) A PCB is not a bloody computer. A central heating programmer, isn't a computer simply because it contains a PCB. Your washing machine (assuming you have one for Mrs Way-Har-Bee ) or the ones down the laundrette, contain perhaps two or even three PCB's,,, but it's neither a CH programmer or a bloody computer. You sir are the one showing your ignorance.
My original post concerning the taxation of industrial robots still stands. As they are computer based, then some future government may well see fit to put a special tax on computers/ computerised equipment. (including your Commodore 64)
You'd make a great MP , the amount of useless filibustering you indulge in. I bet you were that one unwanted child. Hated by his parents and the world. Awww poor you.

Central heating programmers are PCBs, Computers are PCBs, every modern electrical control apparatus is a PCB, even the washing machine in your kitchen has a PCB to control the programme. If your washing machine does not have a PCB, then your husband is doing it by hand.

When you have finished your rant, tell your husband to stop doing it by hand, and exploit the benefits of PCBs.

 

[Notch7]

Central heating programmers are PCBs, Computers are PCBs, every modern electrical control apparatus is a PCB, even the washing machine in your kitchen has a PCB to control the programme. If your washing machine does not have a PCB, then your husband is doing it by hand.

When you have finished your rant, tell your husband to stop doing it by hand, and exploit the benefits of PCBs.

Bizarre

Talk about twisting what has been said, you should be ashamed.

So is a pcb a computer?

So a Central heating programmers is a pcb?

Is a pcb? has a pcb? Which is it?

 

[Doggit]

Ooh, ooh, I know this one.

So is a pcb a computer

If you have a look at the Pie series of computers, I'd say yes. Otherwise no.

So a Central heating programmers is a pcb

Nooo, but it has a PCB in it.

Is a pcb? has a pcb? Which is it?

I think this one's the trick question, so I'm not going to answer it.

 

[Judy in the sky]

Honestly, wannabhimmyagainandagain is just a troll. A damn ugly trolling keyboard warrior. Probably works (if he has a job) for the local council, behind a desk all day. He's the least favourite office wallah. Sits alone eating his prepacked sandwiches every day. Returning to his one bed council flat each evening to moan at his wife as she missed the laundrette again. (her excuse was a PCB broke in the washing machine)

 

[JohnD]

poor old judy is a sad, angry and bitter old man

 

[JohnD]

The US tariff against Bombardier has now increased to 300%.

For the moment, the UK has the advantage of being supported by the EU in the trade dispute, as it is still a member. However it has chosen to resign its membership, so can expect to be on its own before long.

Possibly the Northern Ireland factory will find itself back in the EU later.

I'm sure the Trumpland tariff barriers have (almost) nothing to do with the recent news about the scandal of illegal state aid being given to tax-dodging American companies Apple and Amazon.

 

[noseall]

poor old judy is a sad, angry and bitter old man

Correct.

 

[Notch7]

The US tariff against Bombardier has now increased to 300%.

For the moment, the UK has the advantage of being supported by the EU in the trade dispute, as it is still a member. However it has chosen to resign its membership, so can expect to be on its own before long.

Possibly the Northern Ireland factory will find itself back in the EU later.

I'm sure the Trumpland tariff barriers have (almost) nothing to do with the recent news about the scandal of illegal state aid being given to tax-dodging American companies Apple and Amazon.

Trump wont be around for ever, but we will be free of a future united states of Juncker

 

[Notch7]

I think this one's the trick question, so I'm not going to answer it.

It wasnt meant to appear as a trick question. It was in response to this:

'In one sentence every modern control appliance is a pcb and another a washing machine has a pcb.' The second is true.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

...
So is a pcb a computer?

No, but a computer is basically a PCB. with the required/designed bits added.

So a Central heating programmers is a pcb?

Basically, yes, with the required bits added, including a microprocessor, chip 'storage' (permanent memory), and input/output devices.
Going back to the apples and bananas: an apple is a fruit, as is a banana, but a fruit is not a banana, nor an apple. It could be an orange, a melon, a pineapple, etc.
So a PCB (or a collection of PCBs) could be a heating programmer, a washing machine controller, a mobile phone, a camera, a robot, etc.
But it is inaccurate and misleading to say a PCB is a computer, or that the PCB is a heating controller, etc. It could be any of those.

Is a pcb? has a pcb? Which is it?

Well both, really, in fact, more than both. You could say that a central heating programmer has a PCB, in which case you would be talking about the whole unit, the plastic case, and all the components. But you could also say a central heating controller is a PCB, talking about the singular and designed function of the programmer.
However, it would probably be more accurate to say a boiler or a washing machine has a PCB, because the PCB merely controls the main functions. Whereas, you could say that a heating controller (the controller that is not built into the boiler, by which you set times, temperature, etc) is a PCB, because that is its main function. The only other bits (besides the case) are input/output devices.

I said, 'more than both' because a PCB can (and usually does) have another PCB (or other PCBs) added. A motherboard may have daughterboards, or a CPU (which is basically a miniature PCB), or a microprocessor, (which is also basically a miniature PCB, and, if you like, a limited function CPU)

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Honestly, wannabhimmyagainandagain is just a troll. A damn ugly trolling keyboard warrior. Probably works (if he has a job) for the local council, behind a desk all day. He's the least favourite office wallah. Sits alone eating his prepacked sandwiches every day. Returning to his one bed council flat each evening to moan at his wife as she missed the laundrette again. (her excuse was a PCB broke in the washing machine)

Logical reasoning from judith.
So, going back to judith's original, ill-thought out comment:

Well, being as "robots/ AI are all computer based/ operated, it's not unreasonable to assume a government will tax computer technology at some point. (or do you not see the bigger picture here?)

As we have determined, a computer is basically a PCB.
Therefore, according to judith, the government can reasonably tax anything with a PCB in it.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

It wasnt meant to appear as a trick question. It was in response to this:

'In one sentence every modern control appliance is a pcb and another a washing machine has a pcb.' The second is true.

They are both true.
The modern control appliance is a PCB, the control appliance of the washing machine is a programmed PCB. The control appliance of the boiler is a PCB.
The 'whole' machine has a PCB. It is the control part of that machine.