Justice

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

If black people sold slaves to white people, would that be classed as racism by the black people?

That's something rarely talked about in the slave trade debate. These traders weren't sailing to Africa and buying slaves from Supermarkets run by white people, black people were being sold for a pinch of salt by black people.

Precisely, as the link that Notch7 added, there was an economic aspect to slavery, as well as the cultural and ideological aspects.
It's important to acknowledge all 3 aspects, not single out any one, to try to dilute the anti-racism movement.

 

[Deleted2797112]

It is exactly on message because it signifies the continued oppression of one group by another.

Sure, I kneel before you. I am subservient to you.

 

[noseall]

Much in the same way as Floyds death was police brutality and nothing more ?

Probably.
One would need to look at whether there are a disproportionate amount of black people treated unfairly, to answer the last bit.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Sure, I kneel before you. I am subservient to you.

It is symbolic. I am subjugated and oppressed by you. You insist that I kneel before you.
The difference being whether you choose to kneel before me, as a mark of respect.
Or whether you are forced to kneel before me, due to oppression.

 

[Vinty]

It is symbolic. I am subjugated and oppressed by you. You insist that I kneel before you.
The difference being whether you choose to kneel before me, as a mark of respect.
Or whether you are forced to kneel before me, due to oppression.

Wasn't only black people who were oppressed by the ruling classes. 1000's of white Brits ended up as virtual slaves.

https://nyupress.org/9780814742969/white-cargo/

 

[JohnD]

Wasn't only black people

has somebody argued that it was?

Or are you just throwing in an irrelevance to try to dilute today's injustice?

 

[Vinty]

has somebody argued that it was?

Or are you just throwing in an irrelevance to try to dilute today's injustice?

The point is people didn't just deal in black slaves because they were black,
As white people were also subject to slavery means that racism wasn't the motivation behind the slave trade.

 

[sxturbo]

has somebody argued that it was?

Or are you just throwing in an irrelevance to try to dilute today's injustice?

What injustice?

 

[Ihavenojob]

What injustice?

A known criminal died resisting arrest, people need something to complain about.

 

[durhamplumber]

A known criminal died resisting arrest

No.he was murdered.

 

[Ihavenojob]

No.he was murdered.

So, what was the policeman sentence, life, 20 years? you have him as guilty so he must have been tried.

 

[festive]

Probably.
One would need to look at whether there are a disproportionate amount of black people treated unfairly, to answer the last bit.

Arguably even more humiliating before death...and hes white racists.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/02/dallas-police-officers-video-bodycam-tony-timpa

 

[durhamplumber]

So, what was the policeman sentence, life, 20 years? you have him as guilty so he must have been tried.

You have the defendant down as resisting arrest...face down,handcuffed,knee on neck.which bit of the video shows resistance,either before or during the knee on neck.....then when help arrived,,copper refused them to help,,,and he did not help....Post Mortum confirms he died of trauma,not natural causes.

 

[Ihavenojob]

not natural causes.

Heart attack unnatural? You,me, or anyone else, apart from the cop, can say without doubt that his sole intention was to kill George Floyd.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

No.he was murdered.

He must be the only person in recent times whose death has not been attributed to coronavirus.