Knife attack in Nice

[durhamplumber]

The world has gone mad. Hurt feelings is just that, hurt feelings. Murder however...To behead innocent people because of a drawing is utterly evil

Spot on.What they must be taught i have no idea if they are capable of that at age 18.

 

[festive]

How they gonna stop it though. How many are 'institutionalised sleepers' here until the time is right.

 

[sxturbo]

i find it funny countries like pakistan justify islamic extremists https://www.dw.com/en/pakistans-imran-khan-slams-french-president-macrons-views-on-islam/a-55394035

however, forced underage marriage and rape is perfectly fine. I didnt see the masses marching for this poor little girl.

https://catholicherald.co.uk/pakistan-high-court-upholds-forced-marriage-of-abducted-catholic-minor/

 

[JP_]

The world has gone mad. Hurt feelings is just that, hurt feelings

Wars started over less. The Franco Prussian was started after an insult. And that was done deliberately to invoke a reaction. Thai led to WW1.

People need to remember that freedom of speech does not mean freedom of retaliation when you **** somebody off. Yes, the terrorists should be rounded up and shot, but the press also needs to understand that if you deliberately upset terrorists, innocent people get hurt. Irrisponsible publishing.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Wars started over less. The Franco Prussian was started after an insult. And that was done deliberately to invoke a reaction. Thai led to WW1.

People need to remember that freedom of speech does not mean freedom of retaliation when you **** somebody off. Yes, the terrorists should be rounded up and shot, but the press also needs to understand that if you deliberately upset terrorists, innocent people get hurt. Irrisponsible publishing.

But the teacher who got beheaded wasn't in the press. He was teaching about freedom of speech - as is the way in France - and about what happened at the Charlie offices. He invited those who may be offended to leave the class if they wished. He lost his life anyway for just talking about it.

This isn't about freedom of speech, press responsibility. This is about nutters killing.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Hair trigger JohnD presents me a useless piece of info about shootings without reading my post. Go on off you go.. Offtopic and completely the wrong tree as usual. What's next some stats on the amount of times our PM shot his load somewhere else?

He loves foreigners and hates his own people and country. I wish people like him would go and live in the R O P world where they originate from - so that he can get all the benefits of this diverse culture. Rather than insisting we fill once civilised Europe with them so we all have to suffer the danger and barbarity. People like him who want to deflect and get the sheeple to look the other way while we fill our country with psycopaths are the real enemy.

 

[festive]

He loves foreigners and hates his own people and country. I wish people like him would go and live in the R O P world where they originate from - so that he can get all the benefits of this diverse culture. Rather than insisting we fill once civilised Europe with them so we all have to suffer then danger and barbarity. People like him who want to deflect and get the sheeple to look the other way while we fill our country with psycopaths are the real enemy.

Completely agree RnC it's a totally fckd up mentality, perhaps i tinged my initial post with a hint of bait and they come flocking to distract. These same weirdos deny anyone is British (you are all immigrants) yet insist every other nationality should be respected and protected. Its an endless bias of hatred to against the Brits or English in particular. Somebody royally wee'd in their cornflakes once.

 

[SirGalahad]

He loves foreigners and hates his own people and country. I wish people like him would go and live in the R O P world where they originate from - so that he can get all the benefits of this diverse culture. Rather than insisting we fill once civilised Europe with them so we all have to suffer the danger and barbarity. People like him who want to deflect and get the sheeple to look the other way while we fill our country with psycopaths are the real enemy.

Who started the two world wars? The Civilised Europeans?

Psycopaths are in charge - Cummings et al.

 

[sodthisforfun]

Completely agree RnC it's a totally fckd up mentality, perhaps i tinged my initial post with a hint of bait and they come flocking to distract. These same weirdos deny anyone is British (you are all immigrants) yet insist every other nationality should be respected and protected. Its an endless bias of hatred to against the Brits or English in particular. Somebody royally wee'd in their cornflakes once.

You can actually agree with immigration without being anti-British you know!

 

[durhamplumber]

You can actually agree with immigration without being anti-British you know!

STFF...Wash your mouth out with soap young lady!!

 

[sodthisforfun]

 

[Brigadier]

the press also needs to understand that if you deliberately upset terrorists, innocent people get hurt.

That's ridiculous. Terrorists' raison d'etre is to disrupt their targets' way of life.
If you feel you have to stop perfectly-reasonable activities to appease the nutters, they've achieved their aims anyway.

 

[JP_]

But the teacher who got beheaded wasn't in the press. He was teaching about freedom of speech - as is the way in France - and about what happened at the Charlie offices. He invited those who may be offended to leave the class if they wished. He lost his life anyway for just talking about it.

This isn't about freedom of speech, press responsibility. This is about nutters killing.

Nutters that kill, will kill. Sensible people avoid provoking them. This was the whole idea of using the military to draw them into battle - so civilians don't get killed. Now we have newspapers provoking them on city streets.

And of course, the teacher should not have been killed. But, we don't know the full picture. A good teacher should be able teach about freedom of speech without provoking people. If you need to ask some of your students to leave the room, you are probably crossing the line of good teaching practice. Doesn't show much empathy, and he clearly did not realise how angered these people were.

Again, people need to learn from history, reign in it a bit, and stop taking the moral high ground. We can't stop crazy killers being crazy killers, but we can avoid provoking them. Doesn't take any effort to not provoke people. This started because the press decided to mock Islam, knowing full well that there would be repercussions. Some people believe that they did this specifically to antagonise radicals - just like the way Otto von Bismarck deliberately provoked the French into a bloody war, which killed 250,000 civilians, plus almost as many soldiers.

Words are powerful, use them wisely, and use them for good, and definitely not to deliberately provoke killers.

 

[Notch7]

Completely agree RnC it's a totally fckd up mentality, perhaps i tinged my initial post with a hint of bait and they come flocking to distract. These same weirdos deny anyone is British (you are all immigrants) yet insist every other nationality should be respected and protected. Its an endless bias of hatred to against the Brits or English in particular. Somebody royally wee'd in their cornflakes once.

One logical fallacy after another.

 

[Boogerman]

These same weirdos deny anyone is British (you are all immigrants) yet insist every other nationality should be respected and protected.

I agree with Notchy. Your piling up the logical fallacies, one on top of another.
No-one can deny a British citizen the right to be British.
If you think that people are denying British people the right to be British, you're off your rocker.
Immigrants, as well as indigenous people, can be British.