Leading brexiteer champions more immigration...

[Odds]

Cobblers! "Filed notice of intention" and "proposing to appoint" is just material for your Brexit w ank bank. Sounds like ifs, buts and maybe's.

There’s a brewery, right now, on BBC breakfast saying that grain has gone up 20% and it’s expected to rise to 40% plus other costs including rent and electricity and THATS why breweries are having it tough. No mention of Brexit. Do you know where a lot of grain comes from? It’s been on the news a bit lately…….

The oldest pub in London, Simpsons, which has been going since the 'golden year' of 1757 (When Wolfe sent his troops up the heights of Abraham to get at the French garrison in Quebec) had the doors closed by new owners who used the 'profits are down- costs are up' excuse to foreclose on the lease. Giles Coren was on about it and mentioned there's a crowdfunding page set up on F'Book to help out.
The irony is quite a few people who work for the hedge fund (?)* go to lunch there and aren't happy about it, either.

*can't exactly recall as i don't have the article to hand, but the gist of it is there.

 

[Notch7]

Cobblers! "Filed notice of intention" and "proposing to appoint" is just material for your Brexit w ank bank. Sounds like ifs, buts and maybe's.

There’s a brewery, right now, on BBC breakfast saying that grain has gone up 20% and it’s expected to rise to 40% plus other costs including rent and electricity and THATS why breweries are having it tough. No mention of Brexit. Do you know where a lot of grain comes from? It’s been on the news a bit lately…….

UK economy is still doing comparatively worse, difference is Brexit……that stands despite your endless “but but but”

 

[Mottie]

mottie/motman/whatever it's name

I know you are one of the professionally offended but have you also become one of the professionally confused too? You seem to be struggling with my forum name.

Let me explain to you again. When I joined, I was also carrying out MOT's, hence my user name of ‘Motman’. When I stopped testing, I changed my name to 'Mottie'. I got the idea from some prat on here who couldn’t understand my user name so called me something different. Here's a clue to which prat I am talking about:

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yes. If you read the links I posted, you wouldn’t ask such a silly, snippy question. As per my other thread, I know we have problems in the U.K. but so does every other country in the world and it’s not solely due to Brexit yet still some on here rub their hands with glee when they think it is while remaining blinkered with what is happening elsewhere in the world.

your figures in your links don't say what you think they do. I assume you just went for the headlines, just like the referendum. But we will come back to them, give you a chance to read and understand them.

but what you appear to be trying to say is that despite brexit we still haven't got any advantage from it.

so much for taking back control, with an attitude of look the EU has its problems too. We should be moving on from there and showing we made the right move. You are just adding to the , we made a bad move argument. We haven't got any better for exiting, have we

 

[noseall]

"freedom to work only in so far as for Europeans to fill jobs in the UK that cannot be filled by U.K. workers".

Like it's always been, since immigration was invented.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

UK economy is still doing comparatively worse, difference is Brexit……that stands despite your endless “but but but”

Economy's work on positives & Negatives.... the more Negative we are about brexit the more negative our economy will be... so I think your correct.


So chin up and think of England

 

[JohnD]

Economy's work on positives & Negatives.... the more Negative we are about brexit the more negative our economy will be...

Ha ha!

The idea that everything in the garden would be lovely if only people stopped mentioning the slugs and greenfly!

After you've been playing with matches and petrol, you don't want anyone to point out that your house is on fire

 

[noseall]

Economy's work on positives & Negatives.... the more Negative we are about brexit the more negative our economy will be... so I think your correct.


So chin up and think of England

What you are saying is we can end a recession by thinking happy thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

What you are saying is we can end a recession by thinking happy thoughts?

Have you tried Yoga?

 

[noseall]

Have you tried Yoga?

My wife does Yoga and she's lousy with money but has a very positive outlook.

 

[Pat ex]

**** all to do with labour shortages and everything to do with importing demand.
Capitalism requires growth.

Raising the aspirations of an existing group can generate growth, as can the provision of credit to satiate that growing aspiration.

 

[Odds]

Raising the aspirations of an existing group can generate growth, as can the provision of credit to satiate that growing aspiration.

Just out of curiosity do you read Private Eye? - that sentence would be a sure-fire smash in Pseud's Corner.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

My wife does Yoga and she's lousy with money but is has a very positive outlook.

That's because she's got you. X

 

[Pat ex]

No, never suggested tax before, I was merely agreeing with the 'brexiteer' that suggested it. I have however suggested something similar to. "freedom to work only in so far as for Europeans to fill jobs in the UK that cannot be filled by U.K. workers".

Your suggestion relates only to skilled, experienced labour. What about the low skilled, manual workers in agriculture and the service industry where the real shortages are being experienced, but the wages do not qualify them for this "working visa" that is available.

Eligibility​

Your job​

To qualify for a Skilled Worker visa, you must:

• work for a UK employer that’s been approved by the Home Office
• have a ‘certificate of sponsorship’ from your employer with information about the role you’ve been offered in the UK
• do a job that’s on the list of eligible occupations
• be paid a minimum salary - how much depends on the type of work you do

Skilled Worker visa

Apply for a Skilled Worker visa (formerly a Tier 2 General work visa) if you’ve been offered a skilled job with a UK employer - eligibility, fees, documents, extend, switch or update, bring your partner and children, taking on additional work

www.gov.uk

 

[Pat ex]

There are staff shortages in Europe too. https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/labour-shortages-felt-all-over-europe/

The pandemic aggravated labour shortages in some sectors; the problem

Following the declines in employment rates and working hours across Europe in 2020, economies began to show signs of recovery during the first quarter of 2021.

www.eurofound.europa.eu

Funny that, you’d think there would be a glut of workers in Europe, what with all those Europeans we have sent back, don't you think?

Again your references relate to skilled workers.

On top of rising costs, Europe’s companies are facing another worry – the lack of skilled workers – which is becoming more prominent than ever before.

Job vacancy rates are escalating in the construction and information and communication sectors, where skills shortages had become a structural problem

from your links (the second one over 12 months old)

UK is suffering from a labour shortage in all areas, skilled and non-skilled.