Leading brexiteer champions more immigration...

[Pat ex]

Even Nigel would used the term "Controled immigration" do you not remember those two words on the run up to Brexit? It was banded round quite alot.....

His immigration policy was:

Immigration policy​

In 2010, UKIP proposed certain changes in immigration policy, such as a five-year freeze on immigration for permanent settlement,

How Nigel Farage speaks about immigration

In this article, Nigel Farage's discourse and Social Media posts are analysed with regards to his and his former party's (UKIP) stance on immigration.

www.diggitmagazine.com

 

[Pat ex]

No, never suggested tax before, I was merely agreeing with the 'brexiteer' that suggested it. I have however suggested something similar to. "freedom to work only in so far as for Europeans to fill jobs in the UK that cannot be filled by U.K. workers".

That's how Canada works

I don't suppose Canada has many European asylum seekers.
Nor did they recently unilaterally exit any kind of cooperative working agreement with other nations.

 

[Mottie]

Like it's always been, since immigration was invented.

No, its not. We have a long history of taking advantage of foreigners that come over here to work.

 

[Pat ex]

Yes. If you read the links I posted, you wouldn’t ask such a silly, snippy question. As per my other thread, I know we have problems in the U.K. but so does every other country in the world and it’s not solely due to Brexit yet still some on here rub their hands with glee when they think it is while remaining blinkered with what is happening elsewhere in the world.

Perhaps you'd like to search the media for comparative news for other countries:

Recession looms as UK economy starts to shrink​

Recession looms as UK economy starts to shrink

It comes after the Bank of England warned the UK is facing a two-year financial slump.

www.bbc.com

 

[Pat ex]

Cobblers! "Filed notice of intention" and "proposing to appoint" is just material for your Brexit w ank bank. Sounds like ifs, buts and maybe's.

I would have thought you'd be aware of the damage to a company that such notices would bring. They aren't done lightly, nor with no reluctance.

 

[Pat ex]

Just out of curiosity do you read Private Eye? - that sentence would be a sure-fire smash in Pseud's Corner.

No, I don't read Private Eye, and I'm not conversant with Pseud's corner.
Very little is available on the internet without subscription. so I'm left in the dark, sorry.

 

[Pat ex]

Economy's work on positives & Negatives....

You're confusing a scientific principle of magnetism with a social issue of economics.

 

[Pat ex]

No, its not. We have a long history of taking advantage of foreigners that come over here to work.

I don't think UK invented immigration. I suspect emigration was invented about 50,000 years ago, and immigration was the natural repercussion.

 

[Mottie]

Perhaps you'd like to search the media for comparative news for other countries:

Recession looms as UK economy starts to shrink

It comes after the Bank of England warned the UK is facing a two-year financial slump.

www.bbc.com

Ok. Will this do for you?

EU expects recession to hit Europe as inflation hangs on

The European Union’s executive commission has slashed its forecast for economic growth next year.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

There's plenty more in the media if you care to look. I'm sure you know how.

 

[Pat ex]

Ok. Will this do for you?

EU expects recession to hit Europe as inflation hangs on

The European Union’s executive commission has slashed its forecast for economic growth next year.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

You think that an end-of-year predicted poor performing last quarter is comparable to UK's woes?

The Bank of England has forecast a "very challenging" two-year recession.
The Bank of England expects the UK recession to be the longest since records began in the 1920s and said unemployment will almost double.
However, the UK is bottom of the G7 group of leading industrial nations for economic growth.

Recession looms as UK economy starts to shrink

It comes after the Bank of England warned the UK is facing a two-year financial slump.

www.bbc.com

There's plenty more in the media if you care to look. I'm sure you know how.

Is that why you presented just the one?

 

[Mottie]

Is that why you presented just the one?

Sorry, how many did you present about the UK? Oh, just the one. How many would you like - the 'EU' is just one, isnt it?

 

[Pat ex]

Sorry, how many did you present about the UK? Oh, just the one. How many would you like - the 'EU' is just one, isnt it?

I wasn't claiming there were lots available. I only needed one to make my point.
But there are plenty of others:

Britain's businesses are 'running out of fight' as country faces longest-ever recession

Many independent businesses are trying to survive the Christmas period before shuttering in January.

www.cnbc.com

Jeremy Hunt warns of ‘tough road ahead’ as UK economy shrinks

GDP fall of 0.2% for three months to September gives bleak picture in run-up to autumn statement

www.theguardian.com

UK lagging behind G7 as looming recession hits goods trade and housing market – business live

Chancellor says ‘extremely difficult decisions’ needed as Britain faces its fastest return to recession in half a century, as manufacturing leads downturn

www.theguardian.com

UK economy expected to be in recession until summer 2023

High energy prices, elevated inflation, rising interest rates and global economic weakness mean the UK economy is expected to be in recession until the middle of 2023, according to the new EY ITEM Club Autumn Forecast.

www.ey.com

Will there be a UK recession in 2022? What it could mean for you

With inflation rising and the cost of living crisis biting, forecasts are raising concerns of a UK recession. Learn more about what this might mean for you.

www.unbiased.co.uk

What is a recession? UK output falls and interest rates go up

Britain faces its fastest return to recession in half-a-century

www.standard.co.uk

Analysis: Bank of England's recession warning turns spotlight to UK budget plan

The risk of a two-year recession in Britain, flagged this week by the Bank of England, underscores the high stakes for Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and his finance minister Jeremy Hunt as they prepare to announce major tax increases and spending cuts.

www.reuters.com

UK recession inevitable as government winds back economic support

Prospects of fiscal tightening, limited energy support, and sky-high mortgage rates look set to reduce the size of the UK economy by roughly 2% over several…

think.ing.com

etc, etc.

 

[ajohn]

All a bit pointless really, A number of countries may finish up in a recession. The main difference in the UK's case is growth problems before the current situation blew up. Taking the G7 most have shown growth post covid and recovered to precovid levels sooner. The UK took longer and growth more or less absent. Other countries may take longer to get into the no growth or recession areas.

World growth rates are expected to fall as well. They must expect a reduction in consumption probably down to what happens in the G7 countries so other countries will show less growth as well.

 

[Pat ex]

World growth rates are expected to fall as well.

Surprising really with the concentration on green technology.

 

[Notch7]

Economy's work on positives & Negatives.... the more Negative we are about brexit the more negative our economy will be... so I think your correct.


So chin up and think of England

Bodd, the way to sort out a mess is to deal with the root cause.

“you just have to believe harder” is not the way to deal with a mess