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[Notch7]

What it does show is that whether in or out of the EU you can still end up with a corrupt government.

So that proves EU countries retain their sovereignty.....

Oh and control of 99% of their finances.

 

[SirGalahad]

Jeremy Corbyn is a leave supporter along with millions of labour supporters, do they come under your definition of RW Zealots.

Brexit brought together idiots on the left and right.

 

[Notch7]

Jeremy Corbyn is a leave supporter along with millions of labour supporters, do they come under your definition of RW Zealots.

its ideological for Corbyn.

The socialist party and Communist party both want Brexit.

Corbyn keeps banging on about how he wants to democratise the Labour party, by giving power to Labour members.

Yet when it comes to Brexit the majority of Labour members are remainers.....which Corbyn has ignored.

It seems Corbyn only wants intra democracy when it suits him.

 

[fillyboy]

It seems Corbyn only wants intra democracy when it suits him.

I'm hearing/reading an awful lot of noise today about a great victory for democracy, yet the people making all this noise, Labour, lib dems, Greens, Scot Nats and the remain faction of the Conservatives absolutely refuse to have a general election.
Democracy died three years ago, it's now only acceptable when it's assured it will deliver the results the liberal elite want.

 

[ellal]

What it does show is that whether in or out of the EU you can still end up with a corrupt government.

Indeed...

But the quitter argument was that it was the EU itself was corrupt and undemocratic and we were better off out of it...

The EU has in fact a tempering effect on extreme policies...

So we are well and truly about to crash out of the frying pan and into the fire!

 

[Notch7]

he Conservatives absolutely refuse to have a general election

You keep bringing this up.
Its awfully tiresome.

You know very well nobody trusts Johnson, so if a GE is called he might just run the clock down to get a no deal.

The opposition want a GE after 31st Oct, to force Johnson to break his out by 31st Oct.

Please dont keep bringing up this carp.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I'm hearing/reading an awful lot of noise today about a great victory for democracy, yet the people making all this noise, Labour, lib dems, Greens, Scot Nats and the remain faction of the Conservatives absolutely refuse to have a general election.

Why should they? Let Johnson revoke Article 50 and hang himself first.

Democracy died three years ago, it's now only acceptable when it's assured it will deliver the results the liberal elite want.

Are you meaning the Conservative Government is a liberal elite?
Have you forgotten they have been in charge throughout?

 

[noseall]

I'm hearing/reading an awful lot of noise today about a great victory for democracy, yet the people making all this noise, Labour, lib dems, Greens, Scot Nats and the remain faction of the Conservatives absolutely refuse to have a general election.

You mean most of Parliament.

There will be no election before October 31st. Parliament will not allow more Bozza Brexit dirty tricks.

 

[noseall]

Why should they? Let Johnson revoke Article 50 and hang himself first

Correct. Tories own the Great British Brexit Catastrophe.

 

[fillyboy]

Are you meaning the Conservative Government is a liberal elite?
Have you forgotten they have been in charge throughout?

I'm meaning that MP's intent on thwarting result of the referendum are part of the liberal elite, be they Lib, Lab or Con.

I think you knew that you rascal.

 

[JohnD]

I'm meaning that MP's intent on thwarting result of the referendum are part of the liberal elite, be they Lib, Lab or Con

Ress Mogg is not liberal

 

[transam]

Brexit brought together idiots on the left and right.

Ball. Cocks brexit is a right wing plot

Those on the left are all remainers

 

[Vinty]

So that proves EU countries retain their sovereignty.....

Oh and control of 99% of their finances.

The EU has no problem with corrupt member states, it is only when the activities of the said member states conflict with EU policies that the EU will take action.

 

[Notch7]

The EU has no problem with corrupt member states, it is only when the activities of the said member states conflict with EU policies that the EU will take action.

Your beliefs on the EU are full of contradiction, you swing whichever wsy suits your argument.

You complain the EU has too much power kver sovereign nations, yet here are arguing the EU doesnt interfere enough.

Do make your mind up.

Oh by the way, Europe has countries with the least corruption in the world.
Not surprisingly the most corrupt are the smaller countries like bulgaria, hungary, greece, latvia etc.