Refugees are the result of right wing governments flogging arms around the world
You voted for refugees, you got em.....you can put a few up in your house.
Migrants crossing the channel. What could/should be done?
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You voted for refugees, you got em.....you can put a few up in your house.
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the french dont want them, they make them unwelcome forcing them to attempt to cross the channel, (i'm sure our generous benefit system helps aswell)
unfortunately they also know that if they make it to one of our boats they are set for life, i'm not entirely sure how to stop the issue, we cant let them drown, and taking them back to france will only increase tensions and create unwanted political tensions which we could do without.
one thing we can do is fly them straight back to where they originated from.
or maybe to be fair to them, give them 6 months to get a job and become self sufficient, with regular check ins with a type of parole officer (maybe even tag them to know there where abouts, this will also help stop them becoming slaves), if they cant make it work after 6 months, fly them home.
unfortunately they also know that if they make it to one of our boats they are set for life, i'm not entirely sure how to stop the issue, we cant let them drown, and taking them back to france will only increase tensions and create unwanted political tensions which we could do without.
one thing we can do is fly them straight back to where they originated from.
or maybe to be fair to them, give them 6 months to get a job and become self sufficient, with regular check ins with a type of parole officer (maybe even tag them to know there where abouts, this will also help stop them becoming slaves), if they cant make it work after 6 months, fly them home.
i think you'll find left wing tony blair helped with this aswell... its really not a left and right thing, its about keeping europe, america, russia and china in there percieved respective places, its a class thing, as long as these poor countries do as there told there shouldnt be a problem, and as long as russia, usa and china can continue the willy waving contest no politicians give a monkeys as long as there lining there own pockets.
Nonsense.
The start of the refugee crisis can be traced back to the Iraq war, which destabilized the area, and gave rise to Isis and Al Qaeda.
The Syrian war was a direct consequence.
So you can thank Blair and Campbell for mass migration.
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Wrong
Iraq war was caused by Bush, a republican.
Rise of Isis would've happened without Blair.
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Oh you mean unlike Labour... 'get the middle east done' lol! They are all just as bad work it out poirot.
Hence they are all boating over here because we've blown the whole of their place to ****.
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Thanks never saw yours before i replied but absolutely, so funny people making out the Tories always to blame, normal simpleton footballer mentality thinking it's all the fault of the other side.
Blair was just following US orders
oh wait a minute, the Iraq war was started by a right wing government
is this Tory govt desperate for a deal with the USA?
did it use Steve Bannon for its election campaign
do Tory MPs stand to make money from a US deal
will the above mean the UK will be even more of a puppet to the USA
go on Festive do try to argue it cant be blamed on right wing govts
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We already know the answer to that one. We don't need to wonder.
The United Kingdom (UK) exited the European Union (EU) on 31 January 2020. This policy statement sets out how we will fulfil our commitment to the British public and take back control of our borders.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...nts-based-immigration-system-policy-statement
The UK needs to consider changes to asylum laws to deter migrants from crossing the English Channel, Boris Johnson has said.
The prime minister said it was currently "very, very difficult" to legally return people who arrive in the UK from France using small boats.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53723687
The UK has to look at the "legal framework" for migrants crossing the English Channel, the prime minister has said.
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-jo...mework-for-migrants-crossing-channel-12046290
Boris Johnson accused of scapegoating migrants over Channel comments
PM accused of using ‘inaccurate’ language after describing crossings as ‘dangerous and criminal’
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...w-change-to-deport-migrants-who-cross-channel
Theresa May
The UK has begun returning migrants, who cross the Channel in small boats, to France in a bid to deter others from doing the same, the Home Office said.
It is understood fewer than five were returned to France on Thursday morning. The Home Office said it could not say where the migrants were from, nor whether they had travelled to the UK together in a small boat.
Last week, UK Prime Minister Theresa May and French President Emmanuel Macron signed the Sandhurst Treaty which committed them to reducing the time taken to process migrants.
It means it would take one month, rather than six, to process a migrant hoping to come to the UK from Calais - and 25 days to process children.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46994986
How David Cameron's language on refugees has provoked anger
PM has faced criticism on several previous occasions for his choice of language to describe refugees and migrants
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...rants-quip-is-latest-of-several-such-comments
Wen can assume that the government is acting on behalf of and with the support of the UK citizenshttps://www.gov.uk/government/publi...nts-based-immigration-system-policy-statement
The UK needs to consider changes to asylum laws to deter migrants from crossing the English Channel, Boris Johnson has said.
The prime minister said it was currently "very, very difficult" to legally return people who arrive in the UK from France using small boats.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53723687
The UK has to look at the "legal framework" for migrants crossing the English Channel, the prime minister has said.
https://news.sky.com/story/boris-jo...mework-for-migrants-crossing-channel-12046290
Boris Johnson accused of scapegoating migrants over Channel comments
PM accused of using ‘inaccurate’ language after describing crossings as ‘dangerous and criminal’
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...w-change-to-deport-migrants-who-cross-channel
Theresa May
The UK has begun returning migrants, who cross the Channel in small boats, to France in a bid to deter others from doing the same, the Home Office said.
It is understood fewer than five were returned to France on Thursday morning. The Home Office said it could not say where the migrants were from, nor whether they had travelled to the UK together in a small boat.
Last week, UK Prime Minister Theresa May and French President Emmanuel Macron signed the Sandhurst Treaty which committed them to reducing the time taken to process migrants.
It means it would take one month, rather than six, to process a migrant hoping to come to the UK from Calais - and 25 days to process children.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46994986
How David Cameron's language on refugees has provoked anger
PM has faced criticism on several previous occasions for his choice of language to describe refugees and migrants
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...rants-quip-is-latest-of-several-such-comments
The modern democratic state is built upon the principle of democracy. According to this specific political system, the government is expected to represent and respond to the needs and interests of the demos, its citizens.
https://www.rsc.ox.ac.uk/files/files-1/wp69-tony-blairs-asylum-policies-2010.pdf
https://www.rsc.ox.ac.uk/files/files-1/wp69-tony-blairs-asylum-policies-2010.pdf
The 'military industrial complex' is the term I believe you are looking for.
I'm not Lilly Allen, and they are crap builders so no use to me.
But you calling them refugees whilst interesting, does not explain why they travel thousands of miles through several safe countries to then enter illegally after paying smugglers, and not present themselves as refugees when they can in the first safe country.
Apologists like you really are blind or blinkered.
You need to stop calling them refugees and acknowledge the reasons why they come here - free stuff. You will then get more credibility in your arguments, not agreement, but credibility. As it is you're just trying to justify something on completely the wrong basis. Just be honest with yourself and others, then you'll get more respect.
De Nile is not where these people are coming from.
You are surely the quote meister.
Synthesise the information and then try and formulate a cognitive and original comment that adds something.
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You think it was an original comment to wonder what the UK citizens think about the legal migration system.
I've just given you loads of opportunities to explore what the UK citizens think about it.
Dismiss it if you like, but you were the one that was wondering.
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Theresa May says Brexit deal will give UK ‘control over our borders’
https://www.ft.com/content/dccd97a4-ebed-11e8-89c8-d36339d835c0
Theresa May's Conservative conference speech: Key quotes
"We will do what independent, sovereign countries do. We will decide for ourselves how we control immigration. And we will be free to pass our own laws."
"The clear message from the referendum is this - we must be able to control immigration.
"Let us be clear, we will control our own borders and we will bring the numbers down."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37535527
Cabinet Minister Michael Gove has defended his plans for new post-Brexit border infrastructure after Labour said the government was unprepared.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53375713
We voted to restore UK Democracy – to be free of the EU’s unaccountable bureaucrats, and to ‘Take Back Control of our Borders, Laws, Waters, Trade Policy – and our Money, these are facts which must not be forgotten in negotiations over the course of this year.
https://getbritainout.org/
So how's it going so far?https://www.ft.com/content/dccd97a4-ebed-11e8-89c8-d36339d835c0
Theresa May's Conservative conference speech: Key quotes
"We will do what independent, sovereign countries do. We will decide for ourselves how we control immigration. And we will be free to pass our own laws."
"The clear message from the referendum is this - we must be able to control immigration.
"Let us be clear, we will control our own borders and we will bring the numbers down."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37535527
Cabinet Minister Michael Gove has defended his plans for new post-Brexit border infrastructure after Labour said the government was unprepared.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-53375713
We voted to restore UK Democracy – to be free of the EU’s unaccountable bureaucrats, and to ‘Take Back Control of our Borders, Laws, Waters, Trade Policy – and our Money, these are facts which must not be forgotten in negotiations over the course of this year.
https://getbritainout.org/
Just keeping up with my reputation as the quote meister.
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