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Mike Amesbury
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For once I agree with you.
We've seen a snapshot.
If it's straightforward he will be arrested and charged.
I will wait before I make my judgement
Regardless of what happened prior to this, would you not agree that it is unacceptable to repeatedly hit someone who was on the floor after being apparently knocked out cold as is shown in the footage?
And if he hadn't been stopped by people around he could have possibly inflicted more damage...
There's no place for that type of behaviour from whatever level of society it comes from, wouldn't you agree?
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its very difficult to say a person with their hands in their pockets, is threatening you sufficiently to justify punching them in the head and then continuing undefended.
Looks like ABH. Multiple blows makes it more serious.
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In a nutshell, yes.
I'm not defending him, but I do think there's a lot more to this than just the video. I refuse to make anybody fully guilty on 1 video in isolation to more information .
If it's straightforward he will be charged.
If it's not, we will soon know.
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He was knocked down, not out. Obviously the intent was to knock him out as he waited until his victim looked away. He's clearly not a talented fighter, by any measure. But nevertheless prisons are full of similar yobos, who talk with their fists, sometimes the punch causes a brain bleed and the offence is manslaughter.
By election?
By election?
looking at the video put up by ihavenojob appears to paint a clearer picture the guy is not in a threatening pose with hands in pockets then it certainly looks like the MP is the attacker....
The only defence i would say he has is if the guy was threatening to stab him or the like then pre-emptive action would be self defence
The only defence i would say he has is if the guy was threatening to stab him or the like then pre-emptive action would be self defence
I said a similar thing to a friend of mine.
The MP cannot have felt that threatened as he was squaring up to the person, then threw a punch.
If he had been backing away and then person had come at him, it would have been much easier to justify the use of force as self defence, but as it stands it just looks like an assault.
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Agree, though it's at least ABH not common assault. I'm assuming at least one of the punches caused a bloody nose or cut lip, so could even be GBH.
and of course "you wont threaten the MP.. blah blah" while the guy is on the ground, sounds very much like the runcorn equiv. of "by order of the peaky blinders".
and of course "you wont threaten the MP.. blah blah" while the guy is on the ground, sounds very much like the runcorn equiv. of "by order of the peaky blinders".
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Until we know the full story, we just can't say. All I'm saying is, there may well be mitigating circumstances
If this bloke is the person who has allegedly stalked the MP repeatedly (and been told by police to stay away), I can imagine being confronted by him again at the weekend when you are with family or friends would be the last straw.
So you say 'wait and see', and yet there you are speculating about the reaction to possible events being the 'last straw' ...
You can't have it both ways!
And there are no mitigating circumstances for his repeated assault on the guy when he was on the ground!
Why should an MP think he should do able to do something he would no doubt condemn his constituents for?
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