More deaths in the channel.

[Notch7]

Are you suggesting the Titanic wasn’t seaworthy ?

It was until it wasn’t

 

[securespark]

It's not my problem, so I'm not paying for it. You take up the shortfall in donations if you feel that strongly about it.

I'm not saying I blame the RNLI, they operate to a code, I'm just saying I ain't going to ******g pay for it.

How long have the RNLI been going?

How many lives have they saved?

How many different nationalities of people have they plucked from the water over that time?
They won't discriminate.

People withholding charity could do harm. Wouldn't it be ironic if, for example, RNLI were unable to launch a boat to rescue a person of a nationality these people do approve of saving?

My opinion is that people who think like this are brainwashed by the likes of the Daily Express or Daily Fail.

Have they got no humanity?
Would they just let people in peril in the water die?

 

[fillyboy]

How long have the RNLI been going?

How many lives have they saved?

How many different nationalities of people have they plucked from the water over that time?
They won't discriminate.

People withholding charity could do harm. Wouldn't it be ironic if, for example, RNLI were unable to launch a boat to rescue a person of a nationality these people do approve of saving?

My opinion is that people who think like this are brainwashed by the likes of the Daily Express or Daily Fail.

Have they got no humanity?
Would they just let people in peril in the water die?

How much have you given them in the last 25 years?

 

[securespark]

Pathetic!

Is that all you can say?

I don't see what relevance any of that has to the questions I have been asking.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

You've missed out the category of person who is happy to call you out as a racist f*cking nut job who hasn't got a clue what you think you are talking about

Nut job? Oh the irony!!!

So, I'll put you down as a naive, delusional buIIsh!tter. One category obviously isn't enough for you, Elly. Hey, you're not Himmy as well are you??

 

[Roy Bloom]

Titanic sunk in 1912, the requirement for sufficient lifeboats for everyone on board didn't come into effect till 1914.

It came into effect because they realised the mistake of not providing sufficient life boats for an 'unsinkable' boat.
Their mindset was: it's unsinkable, why do we need lifeboats.

 

[Roy Bloom]

So would anything hitting an iceberg of that size and that speed.



Undoubtedly, but the fact remains it was seaworthy in 1912, although it wouldn't have been in in 1914.

Obviously, by 1914 it was on the bottom!

 

[Roy Bloom]

It sank because someone made a big hole in it.

If I follow the logic (if I can call it that), a vessel that has a very big hole in it that will imminently sink - is seaworthy because it has enough life rafts for everyone.

if I removed all the life rafts from a Shannon class lifeboat, its not seaworthy?

Seaworthiness has nothing to do with emergency equipment and everything to do with its a ability to cope with the sea.

It obviously couldn't cope with the conditions it met on its maiden voyage.
The mindset of 'it's unsinkable' may well have caused a degree of lethargy and carelessness among the crew and the captain.
A systemic failure when at sea in difficult conditions.
Then when calamity befell it, it was unseaworthy.
It didn't have sufficent lifeboats because of the unfounded and mistaken belief in its integrity.

A belief in the integrity of a ship alone does not make it seaworthy. Otherwise all the 'inflatable carrier bags' would be deemed sea worthy.

 

[Roy Bloom]

How long have the RNLI been going?

How many lives have they saved?

How many different nationalities of people have they plucked from the water over that time?
They won't discriminate.

People withholding charity could do harm. Wouldn't it be ironic if, for example, RNLI were unable to launch a boat to rescue a person of a nationality these people do approve of saving?

My opinion is that people who think like this are brainwashed by the likes of the Daily Express or Daily Fail.

Have they got no humanity?
Would they just let people in peril in the water die?

You really expect an honest answer?
Or perhaps we can introduce a modus operandi for RNLI to operate:
Boat in distress: Mayday! Mayday"
RNLI: What is your ethnicity?
Boat in distress: WTF?

 

[Roy Bloom]

How much have you given them in the last 25 years?

Time and support in kind over many years, playing fund raising concerts, etc.
It would be difficult to put a figure on it. Usually each concert raises anyhting between a few hundred to a few thousand.
These concerts are at least two a year, obviously in coastal towns.
Sometimes in conjunction with other fund-raising events.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Nut job? Oh the irony!!!

So, I'll put you down as a naive, delusional buIIsh!tter. One category obviously isn't enough for you, Elly. Hey, you're not Himmy as well are you??

Anyone who has witnessed ReganandCarter's exploitative racist comments is well aware of his bigotry.
When he expresses concern for asylum seekers, it's like transam expressing concern for VAT on tampons. It's just a convenient handle on which to hang his hatred.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Anyone who has witnessed ReganandCarter's exploitative racist comments is well aware of his bigotry.
When he expresses concern for asylum seekers, it's like transam expressing concern for VAT on tampons. It's just a convenient handle on which to hang his hatred.

You need to be careful of both the VAT man and Tampons...... they can both blow up in your face.

 

[noseall]

Seaworthiness has nothing to do with emergency equipment and everything to do with its a ability to cope with the sea.

How can an (unchanged) ship be sea worthy one moment but un-seaworthy the next?

but the fact remains it was seaworthy in 1912, although it wouldn't have been in in 1914.

So factually it wasn't. But as far as current law was concerned and for the sake of certification - it was.

 

[Notch7]

You need to be careful of both the VAT man and Tampons...... they can both blow up in your face.

The Conservative government voted against removing VAT on tampons in 2015

Then in 2021 the Conservative government announced they were removing VAT on tampons as a Brexit benefit.


A perfect example of the Brexit con

 

[motorbiking]

It obviously couldn't cope with the conditions it met on its maiden voyage.
The mindset of 'it's unsinkable' may well have caused a degree of lethargy and carelessness among the crew and the captain.
A systemic failure when at sea in difficult conditions.
Then when calamity befell it, it was unseaworthy.
It didn't have sufficent lifeboats because of the unfounded and mistaken belief in its integrity.

A belief in the integrity of a ship alone does not make it seaworthy. Otherwise all the 'inflatable carrier bags' would be deemed sea worthy.

Utter nonsense