More deaths in the channel.

[fillyboy]

That's one huge pile of twisted logic!

So tell me, why do you think I should support them if you don't.

 

[securespark]

More twisted logic.

 

[fillyboy]

More twisted logic.

More swerving. Again, why should I be compelled by you to support them when you clearly don't, who the **** do you think you are to demand that of me?

 

[securespark]

IDGAS whether you support them or not.

However, stopping your support of the RNLI because you don't agree with people of a certain nationality being rescued by them is questionable at the very least.

Again, if someone was drowning, and you were able to save them, are you saying you would not help them if they were of a certain nationality?

Again, what if your withdrawal of funds led to the RNLI not being able to rescue someone you agree should be saved?

 

[Vinty]

It came into effect because they realised the mistake of not providing sufficient life boats for an 'unsinkable' boat.
Their mindset was: it's unsinkable, why do we need lifeboats.

No ship is unsinkable.
I don't think the builders claimed it was unsinkable.
It was just a marketing slogan.
Sailing a 50000 ton ship through an ice field at full speed at night, wasn't a good idea.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

do the lifeboats affect its ability to perform in the conditions it’s designed for? You can play as dumb as you like. It’s a historic fact that titanic was declared seaworthy after completing sea trials in April 1912.

Lifeboats affect a ships ability in an emergency .
You can play as dumb as you like. But it's a fact that a liner is not fit to put to sea (seaworthy) without its lifeboats.

Even the Isle of Wight ferry has to have minimum numbers of lifeboats and life jackets before it can sail.

 

[motorbiking]

IDGAS whether you support them or not.

However, stopping your support of the RNLI because you don't agree with people of a certain nationality being rescued by them is questionable at the very least.

Again, if someone was drowning, and you were able to save them, are you saying you would not help them if they were of a certain nationality?

Again, what if your withdrawal of funds led to the RNLI not being able to rescue someone you agree should be saved?

That’s not the objection. The objection is they are a national charity deviating from their stated aims and contributing to encouraging people to cross illegally.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That’s not the objection. The objection is they are a national charity deviating from their stated aims and contributing to encouraging people to cross illegally.

No.

They don't have any agenda other than rescuing people at sea.

They don't ask for id , passport, boat registration details or anything. They just attend where they are directed to

 

[motorbiking]

Lifeboats affect a ships ability in an emergency .
You can play as dumb as you like. But it's a fact that a liner is not fit to put to sea (seaworthy) without its lifeboats.

Even the Isle of Wight ferry has to have minimum numbers of lifeboats and life jackets before it can sail.

Of course it does. It’s a legal requirement for a coded commercial vessel. None of this affects its sea performance and ability to cope with the conditions it’s designed for

 

[motorbiking]

No.

They don't have any agenda other than rescuing people at sea.

They don't ask for id , passport, boat registration details or anything. They just attend where they are directed to

It doesn’t matter. Many donors are unhappy with their focus on illegal immigrants and the significant impact on their resources and no longer want to fund them. There are also allegations from the inside that they have become WOKE and some volunteers have left for that reason. That is their choice.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Of course it does. It’s a legal requirement for a coded commercial vessel. None of this affects its sea performance and ability to cope with the conditions it’s designed for

No matter how you twist and turn.

Part of being seaworthy is the need and provision of lifeboats and emergency equipment.

A liner cannot sail without the required number.

 

[Odds]

There are also allegations from the inside that they have become WOKE and some volunteers have left for that reason. That is their choice.

Can you provide any source for these claims?
The remit for saving lives at sea doesn't have a caveat towards race or religion as far as i'm aware.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It doesn’t matter. Many donors are unhappy with their focus on illegal immigrants and the significant impact on their resources and no longer want to fund them. There are also allegations from the inside that they have become WOKE and some volunteers have left for that reason. That is their choice.

It does matter.

You are guilty of spreading mis information.

They are a rescue organisation and rescue people without asking questions .

Volunteers naturally join and leave charities of all types for all sorts of reasons.

The issue is your Governnent, not the RNLI

 

[motorbiking]

No matter how you twist and turn.

Part of being seaworthy is the need and provision of lifeboats and emergency equipment.

A liner cannot sail without the required number.

No matter how you try to impose your lack of knowledge- it’s still wrong.

Nobody is arguing that safety equipment isn’t essential and nobody followed you down the hole to say otherwise.

The fact remains is that a vessel is designed for a class according to the likely conditions - can it cope with 10ft waves / 40kt winds etc.

It is then coded for uses. Safety equipment, fire suppression, life jackets, flairs. Etc. none of this affects its ability to cope with the sea conditions

There was nothing inherently wrong with the titanic- it sunk because there was a failure to keep a lookout and they were proceeding at a speed unsafe for the conditions and visibility. This resulted in hitting an iceberg which made a very large hole in the ship.

 

[denso13]

Some people keep trying to stop them.

Quite right to. The Rwanda debacle was never a real option, just food for the lap dogs.