Nurse Lucy Letby charged with 8 counts of murder and 10 counts of attempted murder

[carmanmemoranda]

That will be a no then and your comments are from a place of ignorance.

If you say so.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Thought so. Thanks.

You agree, it was a 12 person jury, thanks. Why did it take you so long though?

 

[fillyboy]

You agree, it was a 12 person jury, thanks. Why did it take you so long though?

You can continue as a jury of 11 very well.

 

[denso13]

Fillyfacts©

 

[Andydevon]

If you say so.

Carmen yes I do. Now have you served in a jury? simple question? The deliberation in the jury room is restricted everything else is in the public record.

So maybe you would like to answer the question? Have you ever served on or in a jury?

 

[motorbiking]

Googling again, clause 16 of the Juries act 1974 says up to three jurors can be discharged, so 9 it seems is a minimum.

correct - but you also need to read sec 17.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

11 in the minimum otherwise you have a miss trial

9 is the minimum, but then it has to be a unanimous verdict.

A trial starts with twelve jurors
A jury trial will always start with twelve jurors. The trial can’t start with fewer jurors.
There are many reasons, however, leading to a trial not always finishing with twelve. Jurors may become sick and be unable to return. In some rare cases they may be removed from a jury due to some misconduct during the trial. As long as the number of jurors does not fall below nine then a lawful verdict can be reached.

Jury Trial - law, procedure and how a decision is reached - VHS Fletchers Solicitors

A lot is said about the benefits of a jury trial. What is the law? How does a jury reach a decision? What if there is deadlock? What is a majority verdict?

vhsfletchers.co.uk

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Moving on..

We have
Most people think it’s irrelevant.

A few forum idiots think it wasn’t 11.

Motorbiking resurrecting an old argument in which he was always going to be wrong.
He's tried to re-phrase the original question in order to make his comment correct.
He now claims it's irrelevant, then tries to rephrase the question as to "what difference did it make to the verdict?"

...
Does it make any difference to the trial? No

Look there's some squirrels.

 

[Odds]

Motorbiking resurrecting an old argument in which he was always going to be wrong.
He's tried to re-phrase the original question in order to make his comment correct.
He now claims it's irrelevant, then tries to rephrase the question as to "what difference did it make to the verdict?"

It's like shooting fish in a barrel...almost takes the sport out of it.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Selected does not matter the number you count is the individuals who retire to the Jury room to deliberate on the verdict. 11 gave a verdict from the jury Forman (woman) that is all that counts.

That's a different question to the original question.
And there were 12 for the vast majority of the proceedings. For over 9 months there were 12. For the last few remaining days there were 11.

How many jurors were there for the trial was the original assertion.
The question and answer was never how many jurors returned a verdict.

If the question was how many returned a verdict, the answer for all non-unanimous jury decisions would never be 12.

 

[motorbiking]

waiting for the forum idiots to get to the next page of the Act.

Juries Act 1974

An Act to consolidate certain enactments relating to juries, jurors and jury service with corrections and improvements made under the Consolidation of Enactments (Procedure) Act 1949.

www.legislation.gov.uk

less than 11, there is a risk of a mistrial.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

There were 12 jurors involved over 13 days, the remaining 11 were told ....

The trial lasted 9 months.
The jury deliberations lasted a few weeks.

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Selected does not matter the number you count is the individuals who retire to the Jury room to deliberate on the verdict. 11 gave a verdict from the jury Forman (woman) that is all that counts.

12 retired to the jury room for deliberations.

 

[motorbiking]

You understand the important bit of being a Juror is to give a verdict?

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

12 was the electorate, 11 the turnout

12 retired to the jury room for deliberations.