Oil prices up yet again.
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the amount is irrelevant, you asked me to tell you when the price would come down and i did
you try and put something POSTIVE on the forum (he won't)
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that article is obviously wrong as its from last saturday and prices have dropped not gone up
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We are talking about CRUDE oil. It takes weeks to hit the pumps - then it will go up.
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He's the fifth horseman of the apocalypse....Flatulence.
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Old Joe must either be or has been a politician.
Changes his argument continually just so long as he doesn't have to admit he is wrong, which he so often is.
Changes his argument continually just so long as he doesn't have to admit he is wrong, which he so often is.
I could ask you the same thing......
I don't think the rest of the world has the same opinions as you for a start.
If you look at North Sea production its certainly true that the elephant fields have been discovered and that we are unlikely to find others of that size. However you cant look at production and say that the reserves are dwindling. Economics plays a huge part here, taxation has removed much of the incentive for exploration, development and general investment since around 2005. That only started to change last year when some of the bigger operators (with their big overheads) gave up some of their licences to smaller operators. Coupled with a higher oil price this means that exploration / development is at its highest level for over a decade. Look at the accounts of all the major north sea contractors and you will see a surge in turnover from late 2006 onwards - Fact.
The higher the oil price goes the more economical it is to develop marginal fields / increase productivity from partially depleted fields. Even with todays technology its only possible to recover about 30 - 40% of a fields hydrocarbon reserves and thats where the challenge lies to get the other 60-70% out. We are going back to old fields that had been mothballed because the technology / economic climate is such now that we can make these fields work again. It would surprise most to know that the UK has more oil reserves than Kuwait! (Note reserves are not the same as production!!)
If you like googleing, google Oilexco and their activities in the north sea (Shelly / Huntington (Forties again) in the last few years) and come back and tell me that there is no 'new' oil. They are a great example of the new entrants and their exploration activities. Huge reserves lie untapped West of Shetland but its more expensive to get at and the current tax regime does nothing to promote growth. Thats the reason for a decline in production, not lack of oil. The relaxation of taxes for new entrants to the NS has to some extent overcome this and in a few years the major operators will be leaving and smaller operators taking over their assets.
I remember reading a text book in school (which was probably older than I was!) that claimed oil would run out in 10 years. That was around 15 years ago. An operators stated design life for a field isn't the same as the actual life of the field, it tends to refer to the design life of the asset thats developing it (and the platforms that were installed in the seventies are still going strong following several life extension programmes and upgrades). What was hard to see back then was that as the cost of oil increased, the economical life of the field would increase and that would drive new technology. This continues to be the case.
What is this 1962 development you're referring to?
Of course its a finite resource, and of course it will run out. However that won't be in my or your lifetime. These oil price scares we have at the moment help drive development of non fossil energy supplies which in time will reduce demand. The oil price should be a reflection of demand and how hard it is to obtain. Currently that is not the case. Even for the most arduous (NS) fields it costs about $40 a barrel to extract / refine/ deliver to the pump. The rest of the price is driven by demand and profiteering.
I think its safe to say you are somewhat of a doom monger, and I suspect that there is little point in having a reasonable debate with you but I assure you this is not mess room gossip. (We don't have a mess room)It might seem painful but try reading some of the less pessimistic views on oil production then balance that against the pessimistic ones. Can I ask what you base your opinions on? Mine are based on my observations from years in the industry, reading industry journals and publications and the wider media.
joe read this without bias (he won't)
It makes absolute sense to anyone without bias.
And I don't recall anyone ever saying on any thread about oil that it will go down in price so what ARE you banging on about
Someone within the industry armed with more than Google (oh, sorry, I forgot Wikipedia) has challenged you to respond to their post and ... Surprise surprise ... You are left wanting and resort to type ... Bluster.
You've been found out my friend ... You are now transparent Joe-90 and will have no more credibility on this subject ... Assuming you had any to begin with
MW
And I don't recall anyone ever saying on any thread about oil that it will go down in price so what ARE you banging on about
Someone within the industry armed with more than Google (oh, sorry, I forgot Wikipedia) has challenged you to respond to their post and ... Surprise surprise ... You are left wanting and resort to type ... Bluster.
You've been found out my friend ... You are now transparent Joe-90 and will have no more credibility on this subject ... Assuming you had any to begin with
MW
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