Old Conservatives don't understand

[motorbiking]

As I've already said:
Council houses - means tested, given to those who score the most points on scale designed to prioritise those in need.
Private rental sector - available to anyone who wants to rent a property. That includes wealthy businessmen (boo hiss say the lefties) who want to rent near to their current work or people who have not yet found a house they want. or even those who only plan to live in the UK for a few years.

You'd be happy with me renting a few nice houses in order to exercise my right to buy? Thought not.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

As I’ve pointed out, private landlords are a necessity unfortunately for your narrative

Only because of councils forced to sell off housing.

Why do so many miss out basic information

 

[motorbiking]

It's not true. A few thousand a year are sold under right to buy.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

As I've already said:
Council houses - means tested, given to those who score the most points on scale designed to prioritise those in need.
Private rental sector - available to anyone who wants to rent a property. That includes wealthy businessmen (boo hiss say the lefties) who want to rent near to their current work or people who have not yet found a house they want. or even those who only plan to live in the UK for a few years.

You'd be happy with me renting a few nice houses in order to exercise my right to buy? Thought not.

Private Rental sector also includes those that the council pay for.

Why do so many miss out basic information

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It's not true. A few thousand a year are sold under right to buy.

It is true.

And every 1 is 1 less in council housing stock.

Why do so many miss out basic information

 

[motorbiking]

Its also 1 less family needing a council house.

Why do a handful ignore the basic information - The rules for getting a council house and those for earning a right to buy.

Here's Bournemouth's picked at random
- https://democracy.bcpcouncil.gov.uk... Housing Allocations Policy 2020 Proposed.pdf

Do these seem like a lucky few? What chances do these people have IF they get a council house of being able to get themselves in to a position where they could exercise their right to buy.

Good luck to them if they are able to pull themselves out of poverty through hard work and being careful with how they spend money.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Its also 1 less family needing a council house.

Why do a handful ignore the basic information - The rules for getting a council house and those for earning a right to buy.

And those same rules should apply to all landlords. Or none

That 1 family not needing a council house, is the council still paying for ?

Why do you keep missing out basic information? Just to present your 1 sided view ?

 

[motorbiking]

What do you think would happen if that rule was introduced?
- Landlords evicting tenants after 4 years
- Landlords writing in RTB waivers in tenancy agreements
- Landlords flipping property to Airbnb
- Landlord refusing tenants who might qualify for right to buy (those who score high on the allocation system and who are in most need.)

want me to go on?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

What do you think would happen if that rule was introduced?
- Landlords evicting tenants after 4 years
- Landlords writing in RTB waivers in tenancy agreements
- Landlords flipping property to Airbnb
- Landlord refusing tenants who might qualify for right to buy (those who score high on the allocation system and who are in most need.)

want me to go on?

Most of that could be sorted easily by law, but you know that.

You still avoid saying why it's right for councils forced to sell but private landlords arent

 

[JohnD]

What do you think would happen if that rule was introduced?
- Landlords evicting tenants after 4 years
- Landlords writing in RTB waivers in tenancy agreements
- Landlords flipping property to Airbnb
- Landlord refusing tenants who might qualify for right to buy (those who score high on the allocation system and who are in most need.)

want me to go on?

Motorbiking is not in favour of owners being forced to sell homes below their value

(Unless he doesn't like the owner)

 

[JohnD]

Its also 1 less family needing a council house.

Why do a handful ignore the basic information - The rules for getting a council house and those for earning a right to buy.

Here's Bournemouth's picked at random
- https://democracy.bcpcouncil.gov.uk... Housing Allocations Policy 2020 Proposed.pdf

Do these seem like a lucky few? What chances do these people have IF they get a council house of being able to get themselves in to a position where they could exercise their right to buy.

Good luck to them if they are able to pull themselves out of poverty through hard work and being careful with how they spend money.

Motorbiking is in favour of owners being forced to sell homes below their value

(Unless he likes the owner)

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Motorbiking tries to suggest it is hard work to rent a home and difficult to earn money from it and difficult to have its value increase with other people's money too.

 

[IT Minion]

It's not true. A few thousand a year are sold under right to buy.

Social housing sales and demolitions 2021-22: Right to Buy sales

www.gov.uk

If by a few you mean around 15,000 then yes.

Its hard to find good numbers but I believe HAs built around 5,000 social rent properties last year.

That's not a sustainable path.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Social housing sales and demolitions 2021-22: Right to Buy sales

www.gov.uk

If by a few you mean around 15,000 then yes.

Its hard to find good numbers but I believe HAs built around 5,000 social rent properties last year.

That's not a sustainable path.

Suits private landlords though

 

[JohnD]

My sources tell me that all the best council houses were bought long ago. The biggest peaks around 1980 and 1990. That's why numbers are declining.

Hence the difficulty in finding decent social housing.

There are still flats in undesirable locations and run down tower blocks.

Think of Grenfell.