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teaboyjim
I completely agree! Insurance companies will back your statement up with scientific data! The under 35's male drivers are the most dangerous road users. Fact
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Over 70s face driving curfew
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The Mail said :-
'...Drivers over age of 70 with health conditions could be allowed to keep licences...'
Further more :-
'...Drivers over the age of 70 who suffer from poor health could be allowed to retain their licences if they stick to roads in their local area...'
Perhaps some one with moderate to severe sleep apnoea with history of nodding off during the day... Probably lose their licence today.
Perhaps the meaning was opposite to that which a quick mobile phone reading of the article heading might convey ?
'Number of riders of motorcycles over 50cc killed or seriously injured in road accidents in Great Britain as of 2018, by age and gender.
Age 25-59 killed or badly injured , Men 3268, Women 181, total 3449 out of 4991 or 69.1%.
The spread in that age group not mentioned - for free anyway.
https://www.statista.com/statistics...dent-deaths-and-injuries-in-great-britain-uk/
There we go, increasing age, hopefully increasing wealth - increasing ability to fund an extra conveyance - Beware of over confidence.
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'...Drivers over age of 70 with health conditions could be allowed to keep licences...'
Further more :-
'...Drivers over the age of 70 who suffer from poor health could be allowed to retain their licences if they stick to roads in their local area...'
Perhaps some one with moderate to severe sleep apnoea with history of nodding off during the day... Probably lose their licence today.
Perhaps the meaning was opposite to that which a quick mobile phone reading of the article heading might convey ?
'Number of riders of motorcycles over 50cc killed or seriously injured in road accidents in Great Britain as of 2018, by age and gender.
Age 25-59 killed or badly injured , Men 3268, Women 181, total 3449 out of 4991 or 69.1%.
The spread in that age group not mentioned - for free anyway.
https://www.statista.com/statistics...dent-deaths-and-injuries-in-great-britain-uk/
There we go, increasing age, hopefully increasing wealth - increasing ability to fund an extra conveyance - Beware of over confidence.
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I was under the impression that the insurance companies did something on these lines anyway. Certainly my FiL had increasing premiums from when he was age 75 on.
Yeah like I mentioned in the opening post, I get that policies and legislation need boundaries, in this case age. However it's ironic to think someone pre 70 can drive around with any number of conditions, however when you hit 70 look out, no more night driving or going beyond 30 miles for you. Even with 'certain conditions' it seems a broad-ish brush given some of those people will still be better drivers and healthier than tons of younger drivers. That's why I'd be for a self paid medical every 3 years for every driver over 70.
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Loads of coulds as per usual in newspapers so meaningless. If the politicians went too far with this they would find themselves being beaten up with walking sticks and zimmer frames.
There has always been conditions which may result in a driving ban at any age. There may be some people who aught to wear glasses when driving and don't but is the ability to read a number plate at some distance a sensible test. It was just convenient. Even pigeons are easier to see. All people I know of that have had problems in this area have sorted out glasses themselves at some point even with cataracts.
If increasing age related to accident incidents insurance companies would charge on that basis what ever type it was minor or serious. Most claims are for minor incidents and insurance costs relate to repair costs. People can go for many many years without any incidents and then one day one happens. It may just be down to another driver.
Actually currently a driving license has to be renewed more frequently at some age or the other. I think it's 70 not sure. I suppose that might result in a change such as go see a doctor as well. In fact that may be the case now at some age or the other.
I got told to get of the road last year. Urban painted island. Audi stopped at opposite junction. Me turning left and no need to stop, just slow down. Audi man wanted to turn right, hoofed it, blaring horn etc and followed me down the road. Stopped at a post office so he opens his window etc. I am one of these drivers that presses on. I use acceleration, that is what it's for. What I don't do is exceed speed limits by much. This particular bloke thinks he owns the island so what other people are doing is irrelevant. I'm in his way so he uses the horn.
There has always been conditions which may result in a driving ban at any age. There may be some people who aught to wear glasses when driving and don't but is the ability to read a number plate at some distance a sensible test. It was just convenient. Even pigeons are easier to see. All people I know of that have had problems in this area have sorted out glasses themselves at some point even with cataracts.
If increasing age related to accident incidents insurance companies would charge on that basis what ever type it was minor or serious. Most claims are for minor incidents and insurance costs relate to repair costs. People can go for many many years without any incidents and then one day one happens. It may just be down to another driver.
Actually currently a driving license has to be renewed more frequently at some age or the other. I think it's 70 not sure. I suppose that might result in a change such as go see a doctor as well. In fact that may be the case now at some age or the other.
I got told to get of the road last year. Urban painted island. Audi stopped at opposite junction. Me turning left and no need to stop, just slow down. Audi man wanted to turn right, hoofed it, blaring horn etc and followed me down the road. Stopped at a post office so he opens his window etc. I am one of these drivers that presses on. I use acceleration, that is what it's for. What I don't do is exceed speed limits by much. This particular bloke thinks he owns the island so what other people are doing is irrelevant. I'm in his way so he uses the horn.
I think the fundamental mistake is mentioning "over 70s".
Anyone who has had their licence revoked because of health issues might be allowed to have a licence for the restricted use.
Anyone who has had their licence revoked because of health issues might be allowed to have a licence for the restricted use.
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EddieM
I'm in favour of a periodic retest of one's driving ability. (I'd probably fail!)
This is the critical takeaway from this.
I doubt if anyone on here would pass the Highway Code Test
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EddieM
I probably would fail due to that odd way of steering that they (used?) to teach when learning to drive. What was all that about?
You mean not crossing your hands when you turn the wheel?
I used to find that difficult to master when I was learning but after passing my test I was soon driving 3.5t, and the occasional 7.5t, lorry so it quickly became habit not to cross my arms and now I don't think I ever do.
I would like to take a test just to see if I would pass, (with no penalty if I don't!
), just out of curiosity. The 2 bumps I have had, in over 30 years of driving many different vehicles, were officially classed as zero blame to me. First one was a woman cut through a line of stationary traffic without stopping or looking, ("The man in the white car waved me through" Big mistake love.), and I bumped her rear wing. No injuries to anyone. The second was going to work ne morning in the rain. A van a few car lengths ahead of me hit a pool of water and began to 'fishtail' so I indicated to move to the right. As I started to move a 38t lorry rear ended me at 62mph in a 40mph zone. Shunted me across another 3 traffic lanes into a right turn filter lane. Luckily there was no traffic in these lanes because where I indicated to move out was at the end of the outer lane closures due to roadworks. Mt escort looked like afiesta and was a write off. After hitting me the lorry hit the van I avoided at 42mph causing the van to hit the car in front for a second time, (he had already hit it once when it stopped for a red light).Eventually the police told me he had been found guilty of speeding, driving under the influence of alcohol, driving whilst uninsured because he didn't have a valid licence for that sized vehicle, and exceeding the permitted driving time on the tacho card. Basically had the book thrown at him, lost his licence for a few years, hefty fine and lost his job.
It was about having full and consistent control of the steering wheel, as taught to the police advanced drivers. It works well, if you do it properly.
As does the Hendon shuffle on a motorbike.
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teaboyjim
Are you a Police Officer Harry? - No need to answer of course if it's too personal of courseI did the Advanced Police test a few years ago, does that count
I had some informal tuition in defensive driving from a police instructor a few days after passing my test 1964
I was assessed ( and passed ) for driving an ambulance on Blues and Twos ( St John Ambulance volunteer ) in the 1990s
I was assessed ( and passed ) for driving an ambulance on Blues and Twos ( St John Ambulance volunteer ) in the 1990s
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