Panorama - The Smart Meter mess

[aveatry]

After 55 years in electronics research and development ( of which12 years was in radio telecomunications ) my experience tells me that SimonH2 is correct.

But despite your vast experience notch will still say you are racist, denso will argue for 100 pages over one word, and noseall will deny that anyone ever said they were secure. And one or all of them with throw something in about lizards or something about 14 years.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

After 55 years in electronics research and development ( of which12 years was in radio telecomunications ) my experience tells me that SimonH2 is correct.

and my even longer experience, tells me the same, the difference between us being - how likely is it that anyone might want to hack in, which in my opinion is infinitely tiny, really not worthy of consideration.

 

[motorbiking]

Seems its well researched:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10098782

Not only can hostile actors be mischievous by screwing with the meter and data, that can cause surges on the grid, causing damages and outages.

 

[motorbiking]

Naturally. Nor will you be able to. None of it bears a resemblance to reality. At least biking from the boatyard produced a letter showing concerns over some SM switching, but little else. Anecdotal whinging or fantasy, does not cut it, no.

and you provide nothing other than repeating your clueless opinion.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Seems its well researched:

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10098782

Not only can hostile actors be mischievous by screwing with the meter and data, that can cause surges on the grid, causing damages and outages.

You do understand, that is entirely theoretical, don't you, making a big assumption that a foe could actually hack in, and hack into enough meters?

 

[motorbiking]

doesn't seem too theoretical to me:

Smart electricity meters can be dangerously insecure, warns expert

Hackers can cause fraud, explosions and house fires, and utility companies should do more to protect consumers, conference told

www.theguardian.com

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

doesn't seem too theoretical to me:

Smart electricity meters can be dangerously insecure, warns expert

Hackers can cause fraud, explosions and house fires, and utility companies should do more to protect consumers, conference told

www.theguardian.com

Why attack individual SM's, when it is simpler, and more effective, to attack the network?

 

[motorbiking]

They don't do this manually.

 

[noseall]

and you provide nothing other than repeating your clueless opinion.

Not my fault you can not read and digest the article regarding analogue meter switching and subsequent compensation.

Not my fault that you made yourself look a dick, attempting to (wrongly) claim it was all to do with SM remote switching.

Not my fault you wrongly thought OFGEM banned SM switching to prepay when they don't have the authority, or the desire to do so. Did you know the SM remote switching suspension has been partially lifted ? Did you know OFGEM are on favour of some meter switching (to prepay)?

 

[noseall]

doesn't seem too theoretical to me:

Smart electricity meters can be dangerously insecure, warns expert

Hackers can cause fraud, explosions and house fires, and utility companies should do more to protect consumers, conference told

www.theguardian.com

An 8 year old article talking about third world meters, lol.

 

[noseall]

Why attack individual SM's, when it is simpler, and more effective, to attack the network?

You can get the little people inside SM's to spy on individuals.

 

[denso13]

After 55 years in electronics research and development ( of which12 years was in radio telecomunications ) my experience tells me that SimonH2 is correct.

I think that is stating the obvious, nothing is completely secure.

 

[noseall]

After 55 years in electronics research and development ( of which12 years was in radio telecomunications ) my experience tells me that SimonH2 is correct.

Correct about what? That anything that uses electronics and the Internet is subject to security issues?
And those same people are gleefully using their internet dependant electronic devices, to communicate their point, lol.

Hilarious selective use the luddite card.

 

[Nwgs2]

Shame. We can all come up with theoretical scenarios, but if they don't happen in the real world they are pointless.

I’ve been out to one this morning. Kept going from on to ready, that’s a very common fault.

So the customer has no gas until someone comes to repair or exchange the SM for another SM.

That couldn’t happen with a dumb meter.

FACT

 

[aveatry]

But despite your vast experience notch will still say you are racist, denso will argue for 100 pages over one word, and noseall will deny that anyone ever said they were secure.

And right on cue -----

I think that is stating the obvious, nothing is completely secure.

Don't worry about the name as they are interchangeable when it comes to their predictable reply s