People who only believe lies.

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I get it if some of you are scraping through and want support or benefits i never have and never will.
That is breathtaking arrogance to believe that 'it will never happen to me'!

You are only one accident, incident beyond your control or family crisis away from requiring help!

But is it that you believe that you have 'never wanted' benefits or 'never taken' any benefits?
(I'd wager that should any of those scenarios happen to you, then you'd be hollering about your 'rights' because you've 'paid in to the system'!)
 
That is breathtaking arrogance to believe that 'it will never happen to me'!

You are only one accident, incident beyond your control or family crisis away from requiring help!

But is it that you believe that you have 'never wanted' benefits or 'never taken' any benefits?
(I'd wager that should any of those scenarios happen to you, then you'd be hollering about your 'rights' because you've 'paid in to the system'!)

Ellal once again with all due respect you really have no idea whatsoever who i am and what my circumstances may be, i know you wear your heart on your sleeve on here but please, spare me the lectures. I would rather keep what is mine as i know it looks after me no matter what, i don't need any help.
 
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Ellal once again with all due respect you really have no idea whatsoever who i am and what my circumstances may be, i know you wear your heart on your sleeve on here but please, spare me the lectures. I would rather keep what is mine as i know it looks after me no matter what, i don't need any help.
You are I assume a human being with the same frailties/mortality just like the rest of us and not immune from events beyond your control ?

If you really think that 'I would rather keep what is mine as i know it looks after me no matter what, i don't need any help', then you are sadly mistaken!

Mistaken and arrogant!

But I hope you don't avail yourself of our NHS, because you obviously don't need a healthcare 'safety net'!
 
Festive: You really are a silly person. Is that polite enough?

I presume you do not bother with building insurance and the like?
 
Festive: You really are a silly person. Is that polite enough?

I presume you do not bother with building insurance and the like?
EFL I no longer respect your judgement please cast whatever aspersions you feel.

Asking such questions my parents may well of asked me as a teenager.

Next..
 
You are I assume a human being with the same frailties/mortality just like the rest of us and not immune from events beyond your control ?

If you really think that 'I would rather keep what is mine as i know it looks after me no matter what, i don't need any help', then you are sadly mistaken!

Mistaken and arrogant!

But I hope you don't avail yourself of our NHS, because you obviously don't need a healthcare 'safety net'!
You are taking this out of context again to suit your normal frustrated 'I'm the only one who can see the light and am surrounded by x' rehtoric.. crack on..
 
EFL I no longer respect your judgement please cast whatever aspersions you feel.
That doesn't make me wrong.

Asking such questions my parents may well of asked me as a teenager.
I presume you will say you did it on purpose to irritate us but I wouldn't believe you.

You really don't understand why it is wrong, do you?


Why would parents ask a teenager if he had building insurance?

Dafter and dafter.
 
That doesn't make me wrong.


I presume you will say you did it on purpose to irritate us but I wouldn't believe you.

You really don't understand why it is wrong, do you?


Why would parents ask a teenager if he had building insurance?

Dafter and dafter.
Nothing exists outside your box does it...
 
Festive, if you are in a position to never need benefits then you are very lucky. Many MANY people are not so lucky and sometimes it just takes a couple of pay cheques to start spiraling down.

Surely it is better to live in a society where we take care of our people who are sick, have had a run of bad luck, circumstances beyond their control, rather than let them rot just in case there were a few people who take advantage of that system?
 
More gobbledegook.

When people cannot distunguish between lies and the truth or fact and fiction then they will be manipulated to vote against their best interests.

Why would anyone in their sane mind want the US health system? Yet there are quite a few on here like Motty would would argue as long as there one person who is defrauding the system then the only option is to privatise it so you have to pay to use. But what he forgets is that in an insurance based system you will still have fraud and then dealing with moral hazard.

Adam Curtis (one of the greatest documentar producers in the world) produced a documentary about this and how it transpired in Russia. He termed it as hypernormalisation where in a complex world people would gravitate to simple solutions and soundbites like - taking back control, build a wall, we have run out of money etc..

It's a post truth world. Everyone should watch this. It's exactly what we are discussing.

 
Festive, if you are in a position to never need benefits then you are very lucky. Many MANY people are not so lucky and sometimes it just takes a couple of pay cheques to start spiraling down.

Surely it is better to live in a society where we take care of our people who are sick, have had a run of bad luck, circumstances beyond their control, rather than let them rot just in case there were a few people who take advantage of that system?
Festive it appears is a person who doesn't believe in society - unless of course when it suits!

I wonder how many of those people not so lucky as his (allegedly) self sufficient self have had the misfortune to 'serve' him through their roles administering the public services that he undoubtedly calls upon from time to time?
 
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