Softus said:
That's a good answer but what's the question to that answer?
Softus said:
Same as the question that underlies the chicken/egg thang, namely: "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"noodlz said:Softus said:
That's a good answer but what's the question to that answer?
gcol said:Surely after 190+ replies, someone must have hit upon the right answer.
Softus said:Same as the question that underlies the chicken/egg thang, namely: "What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"noodlz said:Softus said:
That's a good answer but what's the question to that answer?
"What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
Softus said:"What do you get when you multiply six by nine?"
42 in base-13.
Did you also forget your Douglas Adams?noodlz said:Forgot my base thirteens!
Softus said:Did you also forget your Douglas Adams?noodlz said:Forgot my base thirteens!
this is the same as others here are saying replace the wheels for skates but the example relies on the wheels in order to govern the speed of the runway.johnny_t said:I'm going to have one last try....
The wheels are there to provide a low-friction barrier between plane and ground, for when the plane is on the ground and moves forward. They provide no traction.
We are told that the conveyor moves backwards at the same speed as the wheels move forwards.
Imagine instead that the wheels are replaced with ice skates, and the conveyor is also made of ice.
Apply thrust to the plane, the plane and, resultingly, the skates move forward. Move the conveyor backwards by the same ammount that the skates have moved forward. Does that put the plane back where it started ?
No. It keeps moving forward and then takes off.
Backwards motion of the conveyor does not convert into backwards motion of the plane.
kendor said:ok pennies dropped i understand where i was going wrong, the distance circumference argument i was putting forward due to the wheel being physically attached to the axle and therefore the plane was what was directing me down the wrong road of thought.
the reason distance will mot come into it is that the tyre could revolve many times around the axle say for example 4 revs tyre circumferance for this example we'll call a foot therefore the wheel will have turned a distance of 4 feet but the axle/spindle whatever you want to call it bears no relation to this and may have only moved a foot forward depending on applied thrust because i can now see there is no relationship between distance travelled by the tyres or amount of revolutions in regards to how far the axle could or has moved the physical attachment argument has gone.
Apologies to all i've disagreed with, but once you go down a certain road of thought and convinced yourself it's hard for others to explain in a certain way where you are getting it wrong and what i needed was for someone to explain the above distance travelled argument as being flawed in the way it was explained this morning by a colleague at work for me to latch onto where i went wrong.
Again apologies.