Safety of Rwanda (Asylum and Immigration) Draft Bill

[transam]

I can see you want to change the subject to get away from your pure nonsense claim

I see you cannot answer the question

As obviously the answer does not fit in with yer narrative / nonsense

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Who do you mean ?

So do you know how much the UK has paid France over migrants ?? Did we get good value for money ??

You raised the question. Im asking if you think it's good value as the Government were adamant it would help cut the numbers coming over. So what do you think?

It might have been better spent on processing centres. Here, or France, or both, or other places too.

This money to Rwanda just looks like throwing good money after bad.

Purely Tory decisions. Nobody else to blame

 

[JohnD]

I see you cannot answer the question

I have pointed out that your claim is nonsense.

Which you cannot deny.

I have no need to follow you as you backpedal over the horizon.

 

[transam]

The French have done f all so it was poor value for money and a damn site more was paid to them than Rwanda

Incidentally the money sent to Rwanda is going to build a school / hospital ect ?? They are one of the 20 poorest countries in the world ??

Do you begrudge paying them money ?? It’s aid related

 

[JohnD]

Do you begrudge paying them money ?? It’s aid related

Nobody prevents you giving aid to the poor.

But the Rwanda deportation scheme is nonsense, and is not good value, and is illegal.

You claim was nonsense.

 

[transam]

I have pointed out that your claim is nonsense.

Which you cannot deny.

I have no need to follow you as you backpedal over the horizon.

So you either don’t know how much we have paid the French ? Or you won’t say ??

No need to follow you over the horizon with yer warped hypocritical narrative ??

Thought you believed in helping out the poorest

Well Rwanda is a poor country but you don’t care ???

 

[transam]

Nobody prevents you giving aid to the poor.

But the Rwanda deportation scheme is nonsense, and is not good value, and is illegal.

You claim was nonsense.

So the UK is not paying them 240 million than

Nobody prevents you giving aid to the poor

What is Rwanda going to do with the 240 million
Do you know ?? Perhaps help the poor ?

Or perhaps you are suggesting that all African countries are corrupt ??

 

[denso13]

What is Rwanda going to do with the 240 million

Housing all the asylum seekers we have already sent over, innit.

 

[transam]

Uk is paying France half a billion pounds

Yep half a billion

Plus what we have already given scoundrels

 

[JohnD]

So the UK is not paying them 240 million than

Nobody prevents you giving aid to the poor

What is Rwanda going to do with the 240 million
Do you know ?? Perhaps help the poor ?

Or perhaps you are suggesting that all African countries are corrupt ??

Word salad

Meaningless nonsense.

The Rwanda scheme is not good value as you falsely claimed.

 

[transam]

Housing all the asylum seekers we have already sent over, innit.

I doubt it

So what are they going to do with the money ?

Build a school may be ? Hospital ? Help the poor ?

 

[transam]

Word salad

Meaningless nonsense.

The Rwanda scheme is not good value as you falsely claimed.

Word salad by some one who has a political narrative and rather give hundred of millions to France than 240 million to one of the worlds poorest countries

All from a bloke who bleats on about the poor and Shariing our resources

And yes the deal is linked to aid

Half a billion plus to the French excluding what has already been given

 

[motorbiking]

That's your answer. To which the follow-up is "For what reasons?"

And a question to you on the lines of "Are you suggesting that all refugees must stay in France?"

Actually that was her answer.

 

[transam]

Word salad by some one who has a political narrative and rather give hundred of millions to France than 240 million to one of the worlds poorest countries

All from a bloke who bleats on about the poor and Shariing our resources

And yes the deal is linked to aid

Half a billion plus to the French excluding what has already been given

And record numbers coming across the channel

Blimey what value for money

Extortion imo

 

[Roy Bloom]

They do not take (accept) more than the UK. You do understand that? The rejection rate is 75% vs 30%

Her point would have been valid has she said:

"France received three times as many33% more asylum applications as us last year."

She could also have said
"The UK accepted twice as many asylum applications as France last year."


But she didn't. Its not as catchy as saying 3 X more - which is wrong.

The question was about the choice made by asylum Seekers.
It wasn't about decisions made by France nor UK.

In case you haven't understood the question, I'll repeat it yet again, I'll even highlight the relevant words for you:

Zoe Gardner explains it slowly, eloquently and succintly.
The question was, "of the asylum seekers in Calais, why do they not claim in France, italy, Spain or Greece?

The question was not about France awarding the Asylum seekers successful applications, It wasn't about the numbers of successful application by UK.
It was about the choice of countries that the asylum seekers choose.

Have you got it yet?