Selling house - buyers EICR report

[jg321]

Any chance the spark and the buyers are good friends?

 

[ericmark]

I would be more worried if the C1's were really C1's etc. It is so clearly rubbish that it makes the whole report rubbish. What you do is print out the Best Practice Guide and show your solicitor how it has clearly not been followed so the whole report is void.

 

[Risteard]

- Fire rated metal fuse board required.
Not required and not a code of any kind. If a new one was being installed it would need to be one of those. However this is not a new installation.

Whilst I largely agree with your analysis of the "Report", I personally would coded a plastic distribution board in a domestic premises. We are told that these are a known fire hazard and therefore I would be reluctant not to mention it. In most cases I would attribute simply a C3 to it.

 

[Risteard]

What you do is print out the Best Practice Guide and show your solicitor how it has clearly not been followed so the whole report is void.

I don't think you could claim that non-compliance with guidance was inherently a problem. You would need to demonstrate why it was reasonable to follow that advice.

 

[John D v2.0]

To be honest this joke report has put you in a worse negotiating position, unfortunate that you couldn't get in first with your own, acurate report.
Personally I'd suggest either hard ball due to the useless report, or get your own report to counter their.
Tbh the whole house buying process is a bit like the brexit negotiations. Just say as much ridiculous stuff as possible until everyone gives up and you get what you want.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

How to we get to the Brexit equivalent of "f**k you - the deal is off"?

 

[securespark]

Best Practice Guide

Wow! I wouldn't call lack of an effective means of earthing for the installation a C2....

 

[securespark]

I don't think you could claim that non-compliance with guidance was inherently a problem. You would need to demonstrate why it was reasonable to follow that advice.

I think you could!

If official guidance on what constitutes a C1, C2 etcetera is laid out, an installation report that makes lesser breaches of regulation appear more dangerous is surely a fraud?

 

[rikdogguk]

Thanks for the responses. It is interesting that there is such a range of views on this - obviously how the guidelines / regs are interpreted can be quite subjective.

Ultimately I am pushing back on the requirement for a rewire as the report does not warrant it, and appreciate the comments on here which leave me thinking I was correct in my initial assumptions that it was a sparky looking for work. If need be I can find my own contractor to take a look, but would rather avoid that hassle if I can.

Cheers, RD

 

[flameport]

Wow! I wouldn't call lack of an effective means of earthing for the installation a C2....

The idea behind it being a C2 is that there is no danger - it only becomes dangerous if a fault to earth occurs and makes exposed parts live.
Most defects are C2. There are very few examples of C1.

 

[Risteard]

If official guidance

I am not aware of any "official guidance". The only such guidance I am aware of, which is exclusively intended to be considered in domestic premises only, is by the Electrical Safety Council.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I think you could!

If official guidance on what constitutes a C1, C2 etcetera is laid out, an installation report that makes lesser breaches of regulation appear more dangerous is surely a fraud?

1) Be careful about claiming NICEIC are "official".
2) Hard to justify "fraud". Very easy to justify "authoritative guidance says it is not dangerous and therefore I am not required to rectify it".

 

[securespark]

NIC?

The ESC work closely with them, as they do other organisations like the ECA.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

And NICEIC begat the Electricity Safety Council.

The ESC became Electrical Safety First.

It's a "charity" set up by and run by NICEIC.

 

[Risteard]

And NICEIC begat the Electricity Safety Council.

The ESC became Electrical Safety First.

It's a "charity" set up by and run by NICEIC.

The Electrical Safety Council did not become Electrical Safety First - Electrical Safety First is a campaigning name for the Electrical Safety Council.

Also, it isn't run by the NICEIC. The NICEIC established it but then it became the parent company of the NICEIC. (The Electrical Safety Council and the ECA make up Certsure.)