Semi-chased cables in kitchen - is this allowed?

[JohnW2]

I suppose technically, those chased in cables BETWEEN the two doubles sockets don't actually comply...

Am I missing something? Why not?

Because the safe zones extend down across the full width of each of the sockets, but not below the (tiny) gap between them.

Kind Regards, John

 

[skotl]

A quick update - the electrician has come back tonight to say it's quite common to have to finish off after the kitchen has gone in and before the worktops, so he'll be out tomorrow to complete the raggling.

Cheers

 

[flyingsparks]

I suppose technically, those chased in cables BETWEEN the two doubles sockets don't actually comply...

Am I missing something? Why not?

Because the safe zones extend down across the full width of each of the sockets, but not below the (tiny) gap between them.

Kind Regards, John

Thanks I see it now!

 

[THRIPSTER]

Does the horizontal run between the two sockets not comply with 522.6.101 (v) ?

Regards

 

[THRIPSTER]

Uhm, see what you mean (I think) - vertical run of cables to small gap between sockets.

Regards

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Should be ... covered by a protective metal cover (top hat)

Why?

That's not even up to bodger standard of workmanship

 

[ban-all-sheds]

This is a normal way to install cables in a kitchen renovation.

A few clips wouldn't have gone a miss, but nothing wrong with it as an installation method.

4 to 1

Let it ride.

Let it ride.

I'm inclined to agree

Dear God.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

This saves chasing out too much of the wall,

In other words it's lazy.

and also prevents the possibility of concealed cables out of 'safe zones' getting drilled through.

Here's another idea to prevent that.

It's called doing it properly and not having any concealed cables out of the zones.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I'm inclined to agree- anyone who tries aiming a drill or nail for that tiny gap between the two safe zones probably deserves to hit a cable

My objection to it has nothing to do with safe zones - that's a different issue.

It is simply that cables coming out of a ragged hole in the plaster and then wandering off to appliances and accessories is just plain nasty.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Cable trails along the floor (untacked) under the other kitchen units.

That's just plain nasty.

 

[sparkwright]

Surely there's no need to chase cables into the wall where it can't be seen though?

Neatly clipping or placing in trunking would be just as acceptable.

If the floor was solid, horizontal chases in the wall would be difficult to say the least to achieve safe zones.

Personally I prefer any surface cable to be behind fitted cupboards rather than appliances as it's less likely to be seen, but if done well it hardly matters.

 

[sparkwright]

and also prevents the possibility of concealed cables out of 'safe zones' getting drilled through.

Here's another idea to prevent that.

It's called doing it properly and not having any concealed cables out of the zones.

By this I meant in some cases the only option is to run surface cables under the worktop, where safe zones cannot be achieved - for example a solid floor. I'm not suggesting cables should be buried out of safe zones.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Surely there's no need to chase cables into the wall where it can't be seen though?

Of course there is.

Neatly clipping or placing in trunking would be just as acceptable.

The latter would do when you can't chase horizontally, but not the former. And a ragged hole in the plaster will still not do.

but if done well it hardly matters.

Yes it does.

 

[sparkwright]

How about neatly filling round the cable?

No ragged holes behind my kitchen units - even re-painted walls before new units went in.

 

[sparkwright]

Do you mean you couldn't clip a cable to the wall horizontally in the void between the floor and the bottom of the base unit?