Snoopers charter - Pensioners will have their bank accounts inspected and monitored

[carmanmemoranda]

Never had one but if what you say is true, I’ll be in a position to show where it came from and where it went. You won’t.

Correct and I've got no need to.

I don't want to have any need to. There are sufficient powers already to investigate any account/person that the authorities are suspicious about. Why do you THINK they need more ?

 

[Mottie]

The State Pension, is not a benefit, it is an entitlement, after a working life of making contributions to the system.

I agree with you Harry. The government doesn’t though!

Archived Petition: Stop UK Government and Departments from labeling "State Pension" as benefits!

As State Pension has usually been contributed to over many years, it seems wrong to title it as a "benefit", and should revert back to what it has always been called, i.e. State Pension

petition.parliament.uk

 

[carmanmemoranda]

The State Pension, is not a benefit, it is an entitlement, after a working life of making contributions to the system.

I'm not sure Mottie understands that. There will be automatic checks on pensioners accounts, no reasons needed

 

[Mottie]

There are sufficient powers already to investigate any account/person that the authorities are suspicious about. Why do you THINK they need more ?

Why do you THINK I think that?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Why do you THINK I think that?

No I THINK you don't think about it, and can't work out why they need/want the power

 

[Mottie]

I'm not sure Mottie understands that. There will be automatic checks on pensioners accounts, no reasons needed

Galahad's links in the first post in this thread talks about "The governments desire….." and "The Tory’s plan….." indicates that NOTHING has been agreed or passed yet. It’s just another project fear of his. In any case, if "The Government" and "The Tory's" lose the next GE, good old Labour won’t go ahead with it. Will they?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Galahad's links in the first post in this thread talks about "The governments desire….." and "The Tory’s plan….." indicates that NOTHING has been agreed or passed yet. It’s just another project fear of his. In any case, if "The Government" and "The Tory's" lose the next GE, good old Labour won’t go ahead with it. Will they?

Totally missing the point, but never mind.

I have no idea what labour policy is, or will be, about it either.

Let me know when you've thought it through

 

[Mottie]

No I THINK you don't think about it, and can't work out why they need/want the power

I think that you think that I don’t think. I think you're wrong about that.

 

[SirGalahad]

Sure, right after you’ve told us yours. Lets start with an easy one. Do you have any?

You are the one who says we have nothing to be concerned about this - so answer the question.

If you can't you just proven what an absolute hypocrite you are.

 

[SirGalahad]

Mottie.

Where are your papers? We just need to check everything is in order.

So please post them on here.

 

[Mottie]

You are the one who says we have nothing to be concerned about this - so answer the question.

If you can't you just proven what an absolute hypocrite you are.

I’ve nothing against the authorities checking my financial details to see if I have beed evading tax. I can understand and accept that. I can’t understand why you need to know the details of my children. Have they assaulted you? Called you names? Hurt your feelings? Owe you money? Stolen something from you?

 

[SirGalahad]

So come on all you in favour of this - open up your personal lives - lets have some webcams set up in your homes and lets see your bank accounts- nothing to hide nothing to fear.

 

[Mottie]

Drink some water Gally or you’ll have one hell of a headache in the morning.

 

[motorbiking]

Well go after the cash in hand jockeys - why does the Government need to sweep everyone bank account - the cash in handers won't be caught - are you thick?

to prove the money is not in a bank account - are you thick?

 

[motorbiking]

Thick mottie still thinks its means tested benefits only - it includes state pension as well as child benefit.

So pretty much everyone.

About 14% of the population, so pretty much not everyone. Pretty much not mostly everyone and pretty much not even half of everyone or even a 1/4 of everyone.